Greater spell focus: enchanting
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Greater spell focus: enchanting
I'm having a few problems with the bonus I get for enchanting from my GSF: enchanting feat. The wiki says (or said, rather, seeing as it's down) that GSF: enchanting should give me a +20% bonus to my enchant success chance. However, whilst doing some experimentation with a couple friends w/o the feat, I found that the improvement was only 8%. Is this a bug? Was the feat nerfed and the wiki hasn't been updated yet? Thank you.
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Re: Greater spell focus: enchanting
What wiki? The wiki is currently down.
The wiki doesn't really have anything about the success chance. It has percentages on the price reduction, which in turn increases success chance by (I don't know how much).Google Cache of the Wiki wrote:Spell Focus: Enchantment
Each Spell Focus in Enchantment reduces the base cost of an enchantment when using the Enchantment Basin. This, in turn, means the chances of success with any given enchantment are increased, and that more valuable/powerful items can be created.
The (non-cumulative) reduction in costs are 10% for Spell Focus, 20% for Greater Spell Focus, and 35% for Epic Spell Focus.
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Re: Greater spell focus: enchanting
The improvement is a 20% reduction in the gp cost of the enchantment, if memory serves. This affects the % success chance, but not directly.
Re: Greater spell focus: enchanting
This is how it works:
Open your NWN toolset, create the item and look at its value.
Toolset value before enchantment = a
Toolset value after enchantment = b
Additional toolset value = c = (b-a)
Additional item value with focuses = d = (c * [1 without spell focuses, 0.9 with spell focus, 0.8 with GSF, 0.65 with ESF])
Focus-modified value after enchantment = e = a + d
Success percentage =(10000-e)/10000*100
You can put it into a spreadsheet yourself. Get the item values from the NWN toolset.
Where the percentage is >95 it's rounded to 95, or <5 it's rounded to 5.
Where the percentage is negative that's also rounded to 5, but god saves are unavailable.
Example
Starting item is a cloak with +2 hide/ms/spot +1 dex.
Enchantment is adding +1 str to the cloak.
Enchanter has Greater Spell Focus.
Toolset value before enchantment = 3687
Toolset value after enchantment = 9735
Additional toolset value = 9735-3687 = 6048
Additional item value with focuses = 6048*0.8 = 4838
Focus-modified value after enchantment = 3687 + 4838 = 8525
Success percentage =(10000-8525)/10000*100 = 15%
Open your NWN toolset, create the item and look at its value.
Toolset value before enchantment = a
Toolset value after enchantment = b
Additional toolset value = c = (b-a)
Additional item value with focuses = d = (c * [1 without spell focuses, 0.9 with spell focus, 0.8 with GSF, 0.65 with ESF])
Focus-modified value after enchantment = e = a + d
Success percentage =(10000-e)/10000*100
You can put it into a spreadsheet yourself. Get the item values from the NWN toolset.
Where the percentage is >95 it's rounded to 95, or <5 it's rounded to 5.
Where the percentage is negative that's also rounded to 5, but god saves are unavailable.
Example
Starting item is a cloak with +2 hide/ms/spot +1 dex.
Enchantment is adding +1 str to the cloak.
Enchanter has Greater Spell Focus.
Toolset value before enchantment = 3687
Toolset value after enchantment = 9735
Additional toolset value = 9735-3687 = 6048
Additional item value with focuses = 6048*0.8 = 4838
Focus-modified value after enchantment = 3687 + 4838 = 8525
Success percentage =(10000-8525)/10000*100 = 15%
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Re: Greater spell focus: enchanting
Ah, I see. I thought the "cost" refereed also to % chance fail.
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