Arelith

The skin color restrictions that have been imposed are a little difficult. It would be one thing if we at least had the ability to cycle through a "next acceptable skin color" option, but I find myself standing in front of the prismatic mirror, typing in a number and getting "invalid selection" over and over.

Are the acceptable skin colors even listed anywhere?

As for feedback on colors that should be allowed:

126 and 127 are perfect lore appropriate skin tones for a drow, but they're blocked.

12, 168 and 158 are totally reasonable Caucasian skin tones for a human but they're blocked.

16 is a little more out there, but I think it's a flavorful skin tone for a vitamin D deprived basement dweller and I'd say reasonable for the underdark. It was blocked for humans.

The skin color restrictions are really bad. It's for some reason impossible to make a fair-skinned Sun Elf now. I'm loathe to use the "wiki" for any sort of sourcing and going back to primary sources but all it takes is a glance to see that, yes, Sun Elves can be fair-skinned (and that happens to be the majority of their depictions).

Why are the provided options deep olive or darker?

Honestly, I have to go back and addend that this is one of the worst changes on this server at any time, ever.

Since the wild elf award lock I have never seen big issues with skin colors not matching the lore of the race.

If it is as you describe, it feels a bit too restrictive indeed.

I tested it a little and I have to agree the restrictions are too confining. There are a lot of colors that should be acceptable that aren’t. I also wonder about cases like wanting to play unusual but legal characters like, for example, a gnome pale master with skin that’s more pale and grey than normal.

I think you ought to get a warning if you use a color that isn’t recommended. Not an outright block.

Spriggan Bride wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:35 pm

I tested it a little and I have to agree the restrictions are too confining. There are a lot of colors that should be acceptable that aren’t. I also wonder about cases like wanting to play unusual but legal characters like, for example, a gnome pale master with skin that’s more pale and grey than normal.

I think you ought to get a warning if you use a color that isn’t recommended. Not an outright block.

As written in the original announcement, we're willing to consider lore-appropriate additions to the list.

To make this process easier, please use the following template:

• Character Race: Moon Elf
• Award Template: Fire Genasi
• Missing Colour: 65
• Screenshot: [insert image that shows the colour in-game]

Who are they sending the template to? Or is it to be posted here?

The GrumpyCat wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:37 pm

Who are they sending the template to? Or is it to be posted here?

In here. We'll review them and expand the validation lists of each race accordingly.

Character Race: Sun Elf
Award Template: N/a
Missing Colour: 0, 1, 2

Screenshots omitted, it's the default warm tone fair skin option descending to get darker.

Whosdis wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:52 pm

Character Race: Sun Elf
Award Template: N/a
Missing Colour: 0, 1, 2

Screenshots omitted, it's the default warm tone fair skin option descending to get darker.

These still aren't implemented? Been putting off making a wizard to have fun with the recent CL changes because of this.

Whosdis wrote: ↑

Sat May 04, 2024 1:16 pm

Whosdis wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:52 pm

Character Race: Sun Elf
Award Template: N/a
Missing Colour: 0, 1, 2

Screenshots omitted, it's the default warm tone fair skin option descending to get darker.

These still aren't implemented? Been putting off making a wizard to have fun with the recent CL changes because of this.

We've reviewed these suggestions and decided to enable colour 2 for them. That change was already supposed to be in, but your comment made me double check and there's been a typo with the addition. Will be fixed soon.

Kalopsia wrote: ↑

Sun May 05, 2024 12:02 am

Whosdis wrote: ↑

Sat May 04, 2024 1:16 pm

Whosdis wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:52 pm

Character Race: Sun Elf
Award Template: N/a
Missing Colour: 0, 1, 2

Screenshots omitted, it's the default warm tone fair skin option descending to get darker.

These still aren't implemented? Been putting off making a wizard to have fun with the recent CL changes because of this.

We've reviewed these suggestions and decided to enable colour 2 for them. That change was already supposed to be in, but your comment made me double check and there's been a typo with the addition. Will be fixed soon.

Just 2?

Sun Elves are ruined and Aryvandaar is dead. Long live Ilythiir!

Whosdis wrote: ↑

Sun May 05, 2024 1:49 pm

Kalopsia wrote: ↑

Sun May 05, 2024 12:02 am

Whosdis wrote: ↑

Sat May 04, 2024 1:16 pm

These still aren't implemented? Been putting off making a wizard to have fun with the recent CL changes because of this.

We've reviewed these suggestions and decided to enable colour 2 for them. That change was already supposed to be in, but your comment made me double check and there's been a typo with the addition. Will be fixed soon.

Just 2?

Sun Elves are ruined and Aryvandaar is dead. Long live Ilythiir!

Sun elves are, per lore, "bronze-skinned." 0 and 1 definitely do not qualify as "bronze" by any definition.

Whosdis wrote: ↑

Sun May 05, 2024 1:49 pm

Kalopsia wrote: ↑

Sun May 05, 2024 12:02 am

Whosdis wrote: ↑

Sat May 04, 2024 1:16 pm

These still aren't implemented? Been putting off making a wizard to have fun with the recent CL changes because of this.

We've reviewed these suggestions and decided to enable colour 2 for them. That change was already supposed to be in, but your comment made me double check and there's been a typo with the addition. Will be fixed soon.

Just 2?

Sun Elves are ruined and Aryvandaar is dead. Long live Ilythiir!

You know, that's not the nicest way to say whatever it is you were trying to say.

Unless we take bronze to mean "dark bronze", as in the deepest hue possible, I don't really see why 0,1 and 117 (and possibly others) shouldn't be allowed. For comparison, this is official artwork of a sun elf in Player's Guide to Faerun.

I did a comparison as well, with 117 being the bottom left corner 1 bottom right, and 2 top right.

Not only are these pretty similar overall, but some of the ones being disallowed are actually darker hued than the one depicted, thus closer to the traditional bronze look.

From Lost Empires of Faerun, under sun elf tag. The bronze hue in this case is also depicted similarly lightly.