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UD Low Level Spawns

Post by RedGiant » Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:48 am

There are some recently tweaked low-level spawns, particularly Derro and Trogs, that are spawning with some very dangerous weaponry to include +2 and +3 items. I assume this was intentional? But, the mounting pile of dead lowbies, could this perhaps be re-thought?
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Re: UD Low Level Spawns

Post by Freyason » Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:38 am

Hey, my lowbies finance themselves through that :p

(I don't think i ever saw anything over +1 tho)

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Re: UD Low Level Spawns

Post by Durvayas » Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:30 am

The darkfalls behind the waterfall recently saw the trogs get a signifigant upgrade to their armament. ICly, it has been noticed, and we've been RPing it as they're recieving arms from the Crinti invasion.
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Re: UD Low Level Spawns

Post by RedGiant » Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:30 pm

The RP of it is fine. But, this is literally the first place you can go as a UDer when you outgrow the bonefields and the great dung heap (not kidding). So, when you are a level 5-6 say wizard, and your greatest defensive spell might be ghostly visage, there are now KD spamming Trogs with steel swords on the road...its death. There are also sometimes +3 weapons in the Derro, in the DERRO, whose typical traffic is levels 3-5. This point is even more egregious here.

This is like giving damask weapons to the hobgoblins in bramble wood as a design point.

I humbly think this needs rolled back. Defensive measures on the server are already everywhere being supplanted, including entire lines of spells with the now craftable +4 weapons and the +4 and some +5 weapons now even found in the loot matrix.

I'm glad that blanked immunities have been reconsidered, but this is the new horizon of balance-breaking on the server.
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Re: UD Low Level Spawns

Post by Sab1 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:52 pm

On a positive note, if you survive I bet the weapons sell well.

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Re: UD Low Level Spawns

Post by Ork » Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:29 pm

This change happened awhile ago. Can't kill 'em, level up and return. Literally what RPGs are about.

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Re: UD Low Level Spawns

Post by DarkDreamer » Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:35 pm

Honestly, I never go there till im done with the Stingers and Driders.

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Re: UD Low Level Spawns

Post by Ork » Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:39 pm

Derro & Troglodytes fit nicely into the L5-8 range, and truthfully that's where they should be.

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Re: UD Low Level Spawns

Post by RedGiant » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:32 am

Ork wrote:Derro & Troglodytes fit nicely into the L5-8 range, and truthfully that's where they should be.
Right...if they didn't suddenly have +3 weapons.
DarkDreamer wrote:Honestly, I never go there till im done with the Stingers and Driders.
Not the Kuo-Toas, the Troglodytes along the Dark Falls, which you literally have to walk through to get to the Stingers and the Driders in the first place. These spawns used to be a lizardfolk and trog mix similar in difficulty to the lowland swamps.

I also love how...

Red Giant: "hey, Derro have +3 weapons"
Community: "honestly, not a problem"
or
Community: "don't go there"

If that's the case. I'll just go camp em' with a high single-digit or low teen and make a ton...as apparently everyone else has been doing! Complaint withdrawn!

Edit: Not meant as snarky as it sounds, but seriously, is this not a problem?
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Re: UD Low Level Spawns

Post by Baron Saturday » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:30 am

I mean I would consider it a problem if for no other reason than it gives people who use those weapons easy and early access to damask-tier weapons, even if they can't use it until the level requirement.
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Re: UD Low Level Spawns

Post by afreshstart » Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:45 am

You don't have to walk through them to get to the Outpost, you can take a boat from Anduor. While I agree they could be a problem to a caster, I had no issues killing derro at levels 3-4 with my double axe kensai barb.

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Re: UD Low Level Spawns

Post by Freyason » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:55 pm

Derro berserker weapons are iron tier (+1/+1). Lunatics are steel type level (+3/+1).

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Re: UD Low Level Spawns

Post by Ork » Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:06 pm

Well, now the spawns don't drop the weapons but still have the attributes. Much appreciated.

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Re: UD Low Level Spawns

Post by RedGiant » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:40 pm

Well, I was hoping for them to have bronze again...

Baby steps?
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Re: UD Low Level Spawns

Post by Maladus » Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:51 am

Those spawns are still really easy if you take other people with you. Now they are also profitable.

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Re: UD Low Level Spawns

Post by PenguinNinja » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:41 pm

If you hunt Derro or Troglodytes as a level 3-6 you probably deserve to get hit by +3 weapons, tho. <.< >.>

The Andunor sewer loop is l33t tier and will get you from 3-6 in like a few hours, after that driders or stingers are doable with the funds you made from that, depending on your build of course.

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Re: UD Low Level Spawns

Post by Nitro » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:36 pm

Try going out to the areas behind the port, lots of spawns in the 5-10 region there before you get to the spriggans.

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