Bloodlines Feedback

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Re: Bloodlines Feedback

Post by susitsu » Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:31 pm

tieflings aren't even affected anything that would particularly affect devils, demons, or fiends in general. the converse is true of aasimar and the celestial type.

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Re: Bloodlines Feedback

Post by Nitro » Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:53 pm

Isn't that a large reason of why many demons/devils produce mortal offspring, so they have an agent to influence into doing their bidding on the prime material plane without suffering any of the outsider weaknesses of a fullblooded fiend?

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Re: Bloodlines Feedback

Post by Cortex » Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:54 pm

susitsu wrote:tieflings aren't even affected anything that would particularly affect devils, demons, or fiends in general. the converse is true of aasimar and the celestial type.
I was actually thinking of giving them the Amia WoF! :D :D :D
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Re: Bloodlines Feedback

Post by Peppermint » Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:07 pm

it's a good thing your title is only a vague "contributor" because it seems that all you contribute is drek

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Re: Bloodlines Feedback

Post by susitsu » Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:16 pm

that's cute, but it's also literally nonsensical, seeing as they are not summoned creatures.

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Re: Bloodlines Feedback

Post by TimeAdept » Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:24 am

I was actually thinking of giving them the Amia WoF!
Oh man. This is some spice.

My favorite is high level charisma clerics with Good/Evil domain Turning and nailing Aasimars, Genasi, and Tieflings. Kaboom.

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Re: Bloodlines Feedback

Post by ActionReplay » Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:32 am

We have some ideas for what penalties to give Tiefling and Aasimars from some spells. But please post any ideas you might have here.

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Re: Bloodlines Feedback

Post by Nitro » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:56 am

I wouldn't give tieflings/aasimar any penalties from spells, that doesn't make sense unless the Arelith variants are actually full on half-blood outsiders.

Instead, what would make more sense is to have surface NPC's reacting poorly to tieflings, treating them like outcasts, laurick refusing passage etc because they're horrible demon looking things.

Aasimar could get the same treatment below ground, maybe most Andunor merchants would refuse to do business with such an obvious goodie-two-shoes.

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Re: Bloodlines Feedback

Post by Cerk Evermoore » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:29 am

Vulnerability to a damage type.

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Re: Bloodlines Feedback

Post by gilescorey » Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:10 pm

Nitro wrote:Aasimar could get the same treatment below ground, maybe most Andunor merchants would refuse to do business with such an obvious goodie-two-shoes.
This doesn't seem like a big penalty to me, Aasimar can't even be Evil aligned.

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Re: Bloodlines Feedback

Post by Nitro » Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:25 pm

gilescorey wrote:
Nitro wrote:Aasimar could get the same treatment below ground, maybe most Andunor merchants would refuse to do business with such an obvious goodie-two-shoes.
This doesn't seem like a big penalty to me, Aasimar can't even be Evil aligned.
You'd be surprised at the amount of non-evil characters that come down to make use of superior UD merchants, like a certain 1d8 temp essence fellow.

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Re: Bloodlines Feedback

Post by TimeAdept » Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:33 pm

1d8 temp essence
see you in the UD

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Re: Bloodlines Feedback

Post by gilescorey » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:41 pm

Nitro wrote:You'd be surprised at the amount of non-evil characters that come down to make use of superior UD merchants, like a certain 1d8 temp essence fellow.
i hope it gets removed now

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Re: Bloodlines Feedback

Post by Hunter548 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:50 pm

Aasimar and Tieflings are native outsiders - This means you can't banish them to, say, Dis, but they are otherwise affected by spells as though they were outsiders. Planar binding, for instance, could work as a hold monster on them. Having dismissal work on them as it does on Imps (Fear, but not sending them anywhere) would also be fitting.
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Re: Bloodlines Feedback

Post by Iceborn » Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:37 pm

Hunter548 wrote:Aasimar and Tieflings are native outsiders - This means you can't banish them to, say, Dis, but they are otherwise affected by spells as though they were outsiders. Planar binding, for instance, could work as a hold monster on them. Having dismissal work on them as it does on Imps (Fear, but not sending them anywhere) would also be fitting.
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Re: Bloodlines Feedback

Post by susitsu » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:36 pm

...people actually buy the 1d8 essences? lol

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Re: Bloodlines Feedback

Post by Hunter548 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:47 am

susitsu wrote:...people actually buy the 1d8 essences? lol
They rock for archers, at the very least.
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Re: Bloodlines Feedback

Post by Astral » Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:03 am

Nitro wrote: You'd be surprised at the amount of non-evil characters that come down to make use of superior UD merchants, like a certain 1d8 temp essence fellow.
I hope they all insta die to broken drow archer ganks again.
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Re: Bloodlines Feedback

Post by Sab1 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:21 am

Astral wrote:
Nitro wrote: You'd be surprised at the amount of non-evil characters that come down to make use of superior UD merchants, like a certain 1d8 temp essence fellow.
I hope they all insta die to broken drow archer ganks again.
Please, wasn't that long ago UDers were flocking to the surface to purchase 1d6 essences from a certain merchant. So that seemed fine, but when its surfacers going below its bad it seems.

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Re: Bloodlines Feedback

Post by susitsu » Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:25 am

they still do flock to the surface

literally every single day to stock their shops

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Re: Bloodlines Feedback

Post by Lorkas » Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:09 am

susitsu wrote:they still do flock to the surface

literally every single day to stock their shops
There's a merchant who sells them below now.

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Re: Bloodlines Feedback

Post by susitsu » Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:27 am

oh, huh. I didn't even know that.

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