Arelith

This doable in a way that wont make me want to rip my teeth out?

Scuvy Cur used to play one, so I'd bug him for that kind of build. I think it was a rogue/monk/paladin, but i'll be damned if I remember how he built it.

How much Paladin do you want? If you're going 26 for +5 Bless Weapon, your options are limited. If you're taking a 4-5 level dump for BAB and Fear immunity, you have a lot more options.

Rogue 20/paladin 4/fighter 6. Use the paladin padded armor, fine elven boots, and paladin hat to help max dex/con/cha. Take the usual rogue skills, pick up Epic Dodge and Blinding Speed. Your AC is through the roof, your saves solid, your only real weakness being low HP (Probably about the same as a battlebard style build), so mages will be dangerous, but you've got a lot of tools to make that not one-sided.

^^ That's the way I'd build it. If wielding a non-rogue weapon, you could go something like Rogue16/Paladin4/CoT or Fighter10. This notably for a Rogue/Paladin of Baravar Cloakshadow, a gnome deity, who would wield a svirfiehammer How cool is that.

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Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:55 am

This doable in a way that wont make me want to rip my teeth out?

Bit late to the party.


This was something thrown together a while back. Can be adapted for human.

Rogue(16), Champion of Torm(10), Paladin(4), Elf

STR: 14
DEX: 16 (18 w/ gift) (26)
CON: 12
WIS: 8
INT: 14
CHA: 14 (16 w/ gift)

Elf: (Hardiness vs. Enchantments, Keen Sense, Low-light Vision, Skill Affinity: Listen, Skill Affinity: Search, Skill Affinity: Spot, Sleeplessness)
01: Rogue(1): Expertise
02: Rogue(2): {Evasion}
03: Rogue(3): Power Attack, {Uncanny Dodge I}
04: Rogue(4): DEX+1, (DEX=19)
05: Rogue(5)
06: Rogue(6): Weapon Focus: Rapier
07: Paladin(1)
08: Paladin(2): DEX+1, {Smite Evil}, (DEX=20)
09: Paladin(3): Divine Might
10: Champion of Torm(1)
11: Champion of Torm(2): Improved Expertise
12: Champion of Torm(3): DEX+1, Toughness, (DEX=21)
13: Champion of Torm(4): Knockdown
14: Champion of Torm(5)
15: Champion of Torm(6): Improved Knockdown, Improved Critical: Rapier
16: Rogue(7): DEX+1, (DEX=22)
17: Rogue(8)
18: Paladin(4): Divine Shield
19: Champion of Torm(7)
20: Champion of Torm(8): DEX+1, Blind Fight, (DEX=23)
21: Rogue(9): Epic Weapon Focus: Rapier
22: Rogue(10): Defensive Roll
23: Champion of Torm(9)
24: Rogue(11): DEX+1, Great Dexterity I, (DEX=25)
25: Rogue(12)
26: Rogue(13): Improved Evasion
27: Rogue(14): Blinding Speed
28: Rogue(15): DEX+1, (DEX=26)
29: Champion of Torm(10): Armor Skin
30: Rogue(16): Epic Skill Focus: Discipline, Epic Dodge

Hitpoints: 328 (508 max)
Skillpoints: 246
Saving Throws (Fortitude/Will/Reflex): 26/17/34
Saving Throw bonuses: Mind Effects: +2, Traps: +3
BAB: 23

Bluff 33, Discipline 32, Heal 33, Hide 33, Move Silently 33, Search 33, Tumble 30, UMD 12, remaining skillpoints 7


Uses padded vestment of the holy squire.

The paladin I playing was actually going to be a pal22/sd5/rogue3, in that paladin armour, which I think is an half plate.

I just lost motivation at some point, but it is definitely doable, even if not optimal.

Still thinking about this. Thanks for the help yall!