Full lvl 30 Fighter

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Rosvopipo
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Full lvl 30 Fighter

Post by Rosvopipo » Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:52 pm

Full lvl 30 Fighter

Can this be any good and can someone give me some build for this? I mean there are so many feats you can take if going like this.

Sure we can dump those 3 levels rogue/bard in this, if its must.

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Re: Full lvl 30 Fighter

Post by Rwby » Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:30 pm

I mean... What do you want to do with it?

That's going to govern a lot of your feats, focus, epic focus, improved crit, specialisation, epic specialisation... That's 5 Feats per weapon you want to reliably use. Going two handed will take a bunch more feats, you're going to need feats for saving throws for sure.

I'd need to know a lot more about their proposed background and personality to give a build.

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Re: Full lvl 30 Fighter

Post by Cortex » Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:42 pm

You don't benefit any going pure fighter over taking 7 WM levels.
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Re: Full lvl 30 Fighter

Post by Tourmaline » Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:36 pm

7 WM levels is probably always best but at levels 25, 28, and 30 non-WM or pure fighters get some decent bonuses. Probably only worth considering on an ogre or maybe another race with high strength and low int and or dex.

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Re: Full lvl 30 Fighter

Post by Tarkus the dog » Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:52 pm

It's not as bad, but now it kinda is that Kensai were removed.

Back with Kensai, pure level 30 fighter would pack some decent HP, very good AB and decent AC, hitting around 51-52 with AB, 66~ with AC and somewhere... around 600ish in HP? The damage was also okay, especially if you go 4 greater strength feats. Decent base damage, somewhere around 40-50 if I'm not mistaken.

There is also the option of going DEX and packing some funny AC. But right now, with Kensai gone, the path seems very meh.

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Re: Full lvl 30 Fighter

Post by TimeAdept » Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:57 pm

I wouldn't do it anymore with Kensai gone. Before you could do it on a Kensai Orog or a Kensai Wild Elf and net 3 extra AC on top of the full tumble (more if you dipped rogue/bard/etc) and net the 5th attack, and have a cute +6/+7 weapon, but now you don't really get any of that, so it's not worth it anymore.

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Re: Full lvl 30 Fighter

Post by BattleDrake » Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:14 am

As the owner of a pure level 30 duergar kensai fighter, i'd say make one if you want all those feats. I love my character, and he kicks butt, pretty much unstoppable in PVP and PVE. Even without Kensai, he'd still be pretty tough, though i'd have probably done a dip for UMD/Evasion(You don't miss evasion until you don't have it :D). With the duergar RuneAxe, he hits between 40-60(60 with powerattack), and crits for near 200 at his peak, but average is about 150 crits, 50ish normal damage. Walking around AC is 51 or 52 I think before IE, AB of 49, always maxed strength, 610 max HP. I had originally made him to get those acid resistance feats and penetrate DR, he was my mage/dragon killer build. Nowadays though, not much acid on mobs(more fire really, maybe a replacement with Fire Resistance) and can be itemized with Ankheg(wasn't around when I made him). He solo's epic dungeons, he defeated the beast with zero wards at level 27/28(before fighters got their bonuses at level 28; did use a restoration stone though, man were all those drow that bet against him pissed :) ) and super simple to play. I haven't rolled him just because he's still a blast to hop on and just go somewhere and beat stuff. Is he the strongest build ever? Nah, and maybe even the 7WM might be good(would still get +5 for DR if using one of those +4 weapons) and way better crits, but you're certainly not underpowered without it.

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Re: Full lvl 30 Fighter

Post by JediMindTrix » Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:59 am

Can personally attest to it hitting hard. ;)

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