Forest Gnome Feylock Build

[hakkanwarrior]

Hey everyone. I've decided to retire my rogue/SD and make a forest gnome feylock! I thought the stats and the RP elements would go well together. I have some rough ideas about this build but if anyone wants to give me an in depth guide, That would be great! Thanks!

[Hellscr3am]

I feel like I'm copy pasting this often these days hahaha but I have this post on "speed dial". Really helped me with my Fiendlock.

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=9473#p77416

Are you going to play surface or UD? I have to admit that the RP elements of the warlock are awesome but at the same time its almost a death sentence on the surface...

[Jagel]

Ironically a forest gnome is more prosecuted in the UD than a warlock

[Cuchilla]

Ironically a forest gnome is more prosecuted in the UD than a warlock

Hm. Why would a forest gnome go for a longer stay in the Underdark?

[Hellscr3am]

Ironically a forest gnome is more prosecuted in the UD than a warlock

Hm. Why would a forest gnome go for a longer stay in the Underdark?

Isn't possible to RP a slave or an outcast right from the start?

[Baron Saturday]

Only for humans and... I wanna say half-orcs? No other races get the outcast start option, at least not last I checked.

[hakkanwarrior]

So this is what was on the link:
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Slightly more difficult to play than the fiend variant due to not having a summon or darkness, but no less powerful (arguably more powerful if played right). Also, INFINITE HASTES.

Starting Abilities:
STR 8-12
DEX 12-14
CON 18-20
WIS 8
INT 12-14
CHA 16
Recommended Gifts: CHA, CON. STR for better carry capacity, INT for more skill points, DEX for +1 AB.
I recommend having some STR in order to wear armor without being encumbered, even if you get bull's strength.

1 W Bonus Feat
2 W
3 W Spell Focus Enchantment
4 W
5 W
6 W Greater Spell Focus Enchantment
7 W
8 W
9 W Blind Fight
10 W
11 W
12 W Bonus Feat
13 W
14 W
15 W Toughness
16 W
17 W
18 W Spell Focus Abjuration
19 W
20 W
21 W Epic Damage Reduction 1
22 W
23 W Epic Skill Focus Discipline
24 W Epic Damage Reduction 2
25 W
26 W Greater Spell Focus Abjuration
27 W Epic Damage Reduction 3
28 W
29 W Arcane Defense(Abjuration)
30 W Bonus Feat

Pre-Epic Bonus Feats: Great Fortitude, Extend Metamagic(Quality of life feat), Luck of Heroes, Strong Soul, Quicken Metamagic(only useful for a quickdraw in PvP, otherwise you'll be hasted 24/7)
Epic Bonus Feat Pool: Great Constitution if you got an odd CON score, Epic Fortitude.
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This is what was recommended to me by a friend but its for a dwarf so needs to be modified somewhat:
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Bard(27), Blackguard(3), Ranger(0), 2gift bkgnd

STR: 14
DEX: 6
CON: 18 (22)
WIS: 8
INT: 16
CHA: 17 (20)

33 Concentration
33 Discipline
33 Spellcraft
30 Tumble
15 UMD
10 Lore
33 Bluff
33 Heal
5 Hide

2gift bkgnd: (Darkvision, Defensive Training vs. Giants, Stonecunning, Hardiness vs. Poison, Hardiness vs. Spells, Offensive Training vs. Goblinoids, Offensive Training vs. Orcs, Skill Affinity: Lore)
01: Bard(1): Power Attack
02: Bard(2)
03: Bard(3): Cleave
04: Bard(4): CHA+1, (CHA=18)
05: Bard(5)
06: Bard(6): Still Spell
07: Bard(7)
08: Bard(8): CHA+1, (CHA=19)
09: Bard(9): Spell Focus: Enchantment
10: Bard(10)
11: Bard(11)
12: Bard(12): CHA+1, Spell Focus: Abjuration, (CHA=20)
13: Bard(13)
14: Bard(14)
15: Bard(15): Blind Fight
16: Blackguard(1): CON+1, (CON=19)
17: Blackguard(2): {Smite Good}
18: Blackguard(3): Divine Shield
19: Bard(16)
20: Bard(17): CON+1, (CON=20)
21: Bard(18): Armor Skin
22: Bard(19)
23: Bard(20)
24: Bard(21): CON+1, Epic Damage Reduction I, (CON=21)
25: Bard(22)
26: Bard(23): Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment
27: Bard(24): Epic Damage Reduction II
28: Bard(25): CON+1, (CON=22)
29: Bard(26): Greater Spell Focus: Abjuration
30: Bard(27): Epic Damage Reduction III
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Which build do you think is better? Or what could I improve. THANKS!

[Baron Saturday]

One thing to consider with the second build: It's steering you towards templar armor/tower shield, which might not fit with your vision of a forest gnome feylock.

As for Cortex's build, it remains solid, but was created in a time when feylocks were considerably stronger than they are now, before they traded DR for DI and lost mass haste.

[Jagel]

Can gnomes even ude tower shields?

[hakkanwarrior]

Can gnomes even ude tower shields?

No they cant. I think they can use large shields though

[hakkanwarrior]

One thing to consider with the second build: It's steering you towards templar armor/tower shield, which might not fit with your vision of a forest gnome feylock.

As for Cortex's build, it remains solid, but was created in a time when feylocks were considerably stronger than they are now, before they traded DR for DI and lost mass haste.

The templar armor and shield won't bother me. I can always customize my forest gnome to be more.... gnomey..... and foresty. Also I am thinking about getting the Deep Gnome Rune Hammer forged for me.... if i can find someone to do it.