How important is +5 enchantment?

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How important is +5 enchantment?

Post by Opustus » Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:40 pm

Hullo. I'm thinking about getting back on the saddle and have a new character in mind, a Ranger/AA/Rogue. The two builds I'm considering are Rogue19/AA7/Ranger4 and Rogue17/AA9/Ranger4. I would rather pick the former, but if damage reduction (like Premonition) is prevalent in PvM, I would opt for the latter, because it gets the +5 enchantment. I am not too concerned with PvP.
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Re: How important is +5 enchantment?

Post by PinataPlethora » Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:55 pm

DR spells are not too common in general, but there are a few places where the majority of casters will have them. You're also likely to find them on a good portion of caster bosses. If you do a lot of damage, or have really good protection from spells, you can hold out and just beat through a Premonition, since it's likely only a little over 200dmg.

Really, you have to consider what you're trading it for, and whether that will serve your playstyle better.

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Re: How important is +5 enchantment?

Post by Opustus » Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:03 pm

The character is built to deal maximum damage, but I am worried if I can't one-round gib the casters in spawns, as that's a pretty reliable tactic for rogues.
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Re: How important is +5 enchantment?

Post by PinataPlethora » Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:14 pm

Unless you're planning to solo a lot, I wouldn't worry about dropping casters in a single round all by yourself. They're going to be high priority targets for everyone.

However, if your goal is to be a mage-slayer, then absolutely go for +5 enchantment. You'll be a nightmare for PC mages, too, with the TS change.

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Re: How important is +5 enchantment?

Post by Cortex » Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:52 pm

If you're playing an AA, there is no reason you'll need so many rogue levels. Focus on AA instead. Crippling strike doesn't work on ranged weapons and for sneak attacks to apply you have to be dangerously close to your enemy, which defeats the point of being an AA to begin with.
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Re: How important is +5 enchantment?

Post by Opustus » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:32 pm

The more rogue is a preference of playstyle. I'll go with the +4 enchantment over +5, since I can always reroute the last two or three levels if life without +5 arrows becomes unbearable.
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Re: How important is +5 enchantment?

Post by TimeAdept » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:45 am

+5 enhancement means nothing until it means something, then it's a total godsend. Being able to plow through mage mobs at high levels and reliably disrupt their spells is the difference between them spammnig meteor swarm and them being dead.

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Re: How important is +5 enchantment?

Post by Scurvy Cur » Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:45 am

Just curious.

Is the ranger/rogue a thematic restriction on the character?

Because it's hands down the weakest AA setup. I can get into more detail if people are interested, but it's got problems.


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Re: How important is +5 enchantment?

Post by Opustus » Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:08 am

Plainly, it's the type of character I want to play. I'm interested to hear your thoughts, though, this is the builds and mechanics thread after all.
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Re: How important is +5 enchantment?

Post by MoreThanThree » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:47 pm

For moonblade builds, how common is premonition in PvP?
20 RPR GANG

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Re: How important is +5 enchantment?

Post by PinataPlethora » Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:14 pm

If you're fighting a Wizard/Spellsword, count on it. I don't see it very often, unless both parties knew there was going to be a fight beforehand. Popping it mid-battle is an act of desperation, so I wouldn't be overly concerned at that point.

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Re: How important is +5 enchantment?

Post by Lurch » Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:04 pm

EDIT: Posted build on a new thread, as it was sort of off-topic.

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Re: How important is +5 enchantment?

Post by Dr. B » Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:15 am

Opustus wrote:
Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:40 pm
Hullo. I'm thinking about getting back on the saddle and have a new character in mind, a Ranger/AA/Rogue. The two builds I'm considering are Rogue19/AA7/Ranger4 and Rogue17/AA9/Ranger4. I would rather pick the former, but if damage reduction (like Premonition) is prevalent in PvM, I would opt for the latter, because it gets the +5 enchantment. I am not too concerned with PvP.
You could pick neither. That's always an option. But if you're determined to pick one of these two I'd go with the 9 AA levels, simply on account of the fact that it can pierce Premonition and is therefore less awful than the one with 7 levels. In either case, you're going to either be far away doing lousy damage or up close trying to do damage and getting chopped up by mobs.

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Re: How important is +5 enchantment?

Post by DarkPerin » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:09 am

Have you considered, Ranger/AA/Assassin?

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Re: How important is +5 enchantment?

Post by Phoxly » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:51 am

DarkPerin wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:09 am
Have you considered, Ranger/AA/Assassin?
I've always wanted to do this. 19 Assassin with a 9 INT mod is doing 28 magic damage a hit with -assassinate.

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Re: How important is +5 enchantment?

Post by Opustus » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:19 pm

Ranger5/Assassin16/AA9 seems a very strong build, going Ranger4/AA8/Assassin4 pre-epic. Don't know if the poisons work on arrows, though.

And nuh, haven't considered it. I don't want to play an assassin but some happy-go-lucky rogue type.
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Re: How important is +5 enchantment?

Post by DarkPerin » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:58 pm

That is fair. I suppose everything has already been said about the rogue. You have a tough road ahead of you. Good luck, sir.

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