13/10/7 rogue build?

[hakkanwarrior]

I am interested in making a rogue build. I heard that most rogue builds are crap, apart from the 13/10/7 rogue build. Please let me know what this is . Thanks

[cptcuddlepants]

I think they're referring to the 13 rogue, 10 fighter, 7 weaponmaster build.

STR: 13
DEX: 17 (19 w/ gift) (26)
CON: 14 (16 w/ gift)
WIS: 8
INT: 14
CHA: 8

Human: (Quick to Master)
01: Rogue(1): Expertise, Dodge
02: Rogue(2): {Evasion}
03: Rogue(3): Weapon Finesse, {Uncanny Dodge I}
04: Fighter(1): DEX+1, Weapon Focus, (DEX=20)
05: Fighter(2): Mobility
06: Fighter(3): Spring Attack
07: Fighter(4): Weapon Specialization
08: Fighter(5): DEX+1, (DEX=21)
09: Fighter(6): Knockdown, Whirlwind Attack
10: Weapon Master(1): Weapon of Choice
11: Weapon Master(2)
12: Weapon Master(3): DEX+1, Improved Critical, (DEX=22)
13: Weapon Master(4)
14: Weapon Master(5)
15: Weapon Master(6): Improved Expertise
16: Weapon Master(7): DEX+1, (DEX=23)
17: Fighter(7)
18: Rogue(4): Blind Fight
19: Fighter(8): Improved Knockdown
20: Fighter(9): DEX+1, (DEX=24)
21: Rogue(5): Epic Weapon Focus
22: Rogue(6)
23: Rogue(7)
24: Rogue(8): DEX+1, Armor Skin, (DEX=25)
25: Rogue(9)
26: Rogue(10): Improved Evasion
27: Rogue(11): Epic Skill Focus: Discipline
28: Rogue(12): DEX+1, (DEX=26)
29: Rogue(13): Defensive Roll
30: Fighter(10): Epic Dodge, Epic Weapon Specialization

Essential Skills: Discipline, Heal, 30 Tumble, 16 UMD, 4 Intimidate

I believe this is it. Not 100% sure on the skills beyond what's listed, but you'll have a lot of skill points thanks to your roguelyness.

Unfortunately I don't know how to modify this for a non-human race, becuse they'll have one less feat than humans do.

[hakkanwarrior]

Wow. Thanks for the swift response!

[hakkanwarrior]

Would the weapon be used with a shield then?

[Look to Windward]

Yep, tower shields are the most common! There's no benefit to keeping that other hand empty; after all. The standard weapon on DEX builds would be the rapier; for the expanded crit range.

[TimeAdept]

13 10 7 goes remarkably well with Parry - use the Parrying Nuckler and save 45 lbs of carry weight and only one less AC than an adamantine tower shield.