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Mitochon17
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Elf Whirling Barbarian Build

Post by Mitochon17 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:45 am

So I was trying to make an elf two weapon user/whirling barbarian. I'm still kinda new to this game. This is what I came up, not sure if its going to be viable or not. Would love any input. I know I couldn't fit in mighty rage, but to do so I have to drop my Int by 2 if I want to keep two weapons and that lowered my skill points a lot. Longswords were chosen because I found the idea of dual wielding moon blades funny.

Stats
Str 16 (Gift) Final 26
Dex 14 (+2) 16
Con 16 (Gift) 18
Int 12 (-2) 10
Wis 8
Cha 8

Race: Wild Elf
Background: Soldier

1. Barb Two Weapon Fighting
2. Barb
3. Barb Ambidexterity
4. Barb
5. Barb
6. Barb Weapon Focus Longsword
7. Barb
8. Barb
9. Barb Improved Two Weapon Fighting
10. Barb
11. Barb
12. Barb Improved Critical Longsword
13. Barb
14. Barb
15.Barb Blind Fight
16. Barb
17. Barb
18. Barb Knockdown
19. Barb
20. Barb
21. Fighter Great Strength, Epic Weapon Focus Longsword
22. Fighter Epic Prowess
23. Fighter
24. Barb Thundering Rage
25. Rogue
26. Rogue
27. Rogue Armor Skin
28. Fighter Weapon Specialization Longsword
29. Fighter
30. Fighter Epic Skill Focus: Discipline, Epic Weapon Specialization Longsword

Skills: Discipline 33, Heal 33, Tumble 30, UMD 11, 25 left over skill points

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Re: Elf Whirling Barbarian Build

Post by flower » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:29 am

Let's talk bout math.

Ambidextrous. Needs dex 15
Skill points: starting 3*4 (12) + 27*2 (54) + rogue class (not sure without checking). That is 66. You listed 130+ skill points?! 3 lvls of rogue will not give you over 60 skill points.

You should pick Terry rage and also add taunt / intimidate. Too low int anyway.

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Re: Elf Whirling Barbarian Build

Post by Mitochon17 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:34 am

I listed 16 dex and as for skill points 20(4) from barb levels +6(2) from fighter levels+8(3) from rogue levels+16 from level 1 barb= 132

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Re: Elf Whirling Barbarian Build

Post by flower » Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:10 am

Mitochon17 wrote:I listed 16 dex and as for skill points 20(4) from barb levels +6(2) from fighter levels+8(3) from rogue levels+16 from level 1 barb= 132

Overlooked it on my phone.

Did you run it in builder already? 10 INt is awknard but if skill points sit tight.

You should get to 49/50 AB and 46 AB on dual wield. AC will be issue and you will have to rely on the temporary HPS.

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Re: Elf Whirling Barbarian Build

Post by Mitochon17 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:38 am

Yeah AC is a problem but I figured I could maybe mitigate that a very slight amount by slapping a tower shield on in situations where I absolutely need more. I was getting like 54 with shield and buffs... which is kinda low right? Also how much Taunt would you recommend for it to actually be effective?

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Re: Elf Whirling Barbarian Build

Post by Astral » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:55 am

using two longswords is bad. -4 ab. Better use something smaller that loses 2 instead of 4 unless you absolutely want this weapon.
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Re: Elf Whirling Barbarian Build

Post by flower » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:56 pm

Astral wrote:using two longswords is bad. -4 ab. Better use something smaller that loses 2 instead of 4 unless you absolutely want this weapon.
Unless going straight for pure numbers, with 50 AB it gives still 46 AB on dual wield. When he uses it against targets with medium to low AC he will be more than fine, and can always switch to sword and shield.

On my first dual wielding elf i took katana, and then i did PVP only very few times and always felt pitty, i fell for this power game, to wich my friend persuaded me (you must go katana, it is only -2 malus). Katana was ugly weapon :lol: and i almost cried i did not pick two bastards swords, as in PVE 2 AB rarely matter and ffor these two to three pvps per 3/4 of year it was not worthy.

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Re: Elf Whirling Barbarian Build

Post by Mitochon17 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:10 pm

Are there nonracial small weapons with +4 and decent damage I could get? Wouldn't I have to switch to masterly damask if I went with a smaller weapon? Or would info on that fall under FOIG? I figured the -4 slightly was slightly countered with the moonblade's +4 over the +3 of masterly damask.

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Re: Elf Whirling Barbarian Build

Post by Astral » Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:17 pm

Mitochon17 wrote:Are there nonracial small weapons with +4 and decent damage I could get? Wouldn't I have to switch to masterly damask if I went with a smaller weapon? Or would info on that fall under FOIG? I figured the -4 slightly was slightly countered with the moonblade's +4 over the +3 of masterly damask.
Purely from mechanical point of view, either smaller weapon or even a rapier (because of the extra crit range) would still out damage the moonblade but not by a terribly large difference. I would go kukries or shortswords personally, depending if I can spare a feat for exotic profissioncy. kukries look alright on elves.
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Re: Elf Whirling Barbarian Build

Post by Baron Saturday » Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:27 pm

The only racial weapons that can be effectively dual-wielded are the half-orc ones.

That said, the penalty for dual-wielding longswords is only 2 more than the regular penalty, and when you factor in +4 vs +3, you're really only losing 1 AB. Do keep in mind, however, that lesser moonblades don't exactly grow on trees. To get 2 of them you'll need 2 mithril dust and 2 star sapphires, neither of which are terribly common - or cheap!
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Re: Elf Whirling Barbarian Build

Post by flower » Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:52 pm

Sapphires are often sold in shops and dust is fairly common if you do dungeon crawling. I crafted mine on lvl 22nd already.

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