Monk/SD/Rogue Build?

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Xanos950
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Monk/SD/Rogue Build?

Post by Xanos950 » Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:27 pm

With true seeing changes i thought i'd dig through my stuff and look what i have and i found a very old epic dodge monk build. Now i dunno what's more viable... to go SD or to go 10 rogue.. so any thoughts on this copy/pasta build? It'll have stealth out the a## anyway.

- 20monk/5SD/5Rogue
Drow cause drow-minmax
STR: 9
DEX: 19 - Max DEX
CON: 12 (14*)
INT: 12 (14*)
WIS: 14
CHA: 8

Gift of *Melee-magthere.

(Starts as ROGUE – LAWFUL EVIL)
R- Rogue
M- Monk
SD- Shadow Dancer

R1 Blind-Fight
R2
R3 Weapon finesse
M4
M5
M6 Expertise
M7
M8
M9 Improved expertise
M10
M11
M12 Dodge
M13
M14
M15 Mobility
SD16
SD17
SD18 Weapon focus: Unarmed strikes
SD19
SD20
M21 Armor skin
M22
M23
M24 Epic weapon focus: Unarmed strikes
M25
M26
M27 Epic dodge
R28
R29
M30 Epic prowess

Skills:
Discipline 33(monk), Heal 33, Move silently 33, Hide 33, Listen 33, Tumble 30, UMD 16 (rogue),
30 spare skill points. (Spot?)

Astral
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Re: Monk/SD/Rogue Build?

Post by Astral » Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:16 am

First of all and most importantly, whatever build you take, always try to have your pre-epic classes lvls in multiples of 4, so you get the most bab you can get. So in your build's case, you'd better:
3rogue
12 monk
1 rogue
4sd (12/4/4)
1 sd
1 rogue
8 monk

However, I strongly suggest this build:

01: Rogue(1): expertise, improved expertise
02: Rogue(2): {Evasion}
03: Rogue(3): weapon finesse, {Uncanny Dodge I}
04: Monk(1): {Cleave, Improved Unarmed Strike, Stunning Fist}
05: Monk(2): {Deflect Arrows}
06: Monk(3): weapon focus: unarmed
07: Monk(4)
08: Monk(5)
09: Monk(6): blind fight, {Knockdown, Improved Knockdown}
10: Monk(7)
11: Monk(8)
12: Monk(9): improved crit, {Improved Evasion}
13: Monk(10)
14: Monk(11)
15: Monk(12): great fortitude??
16: Monk(13)
17: Monk(14)
18: Monk(15): Toughtness??
19: Monk(16)
20: Rogue(4)
21: Rogue(5): EWF: unarmed
22: Rogue(6)
23: Rogue(7)
24: Rogue(8): armor skin
25: Rogue(9)
26: Rogue(10): defensive roll
27: Monk(17): epic prowess / ESF: Discipline
28: Monk(18)
29: Monk(19)
30: Monk(20): Epic dodge

And with the recent update, yes, definitely take your 30 spare points into Spot.
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Misteyes
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Re: Monk/SD/Rogue Build?

Post by Misteyes » Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:34 pm

Monk 20 Rogue 10 is not going to be that much stronger than Monk 20 SD 5 Rogue 5. The SD variant gets 2 less sneak attack dice (but 1 more than the 10 rogue variant when the shadow is out), two less feats and HiPS. Its mostly a matter of taste.

But if you do use the SD variant, consider taking assassin instead of rogue. You won't really lose anything and you get access to poison and the assassinate feature (which will not be great, but since this is a low damage build, it should still help).

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