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Looking for a elf druid

Post by Ozzy.nl » Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:33 pm

Heya folks,

I am right now looking in to a new kind of character and was concidering going a druid elf.
Can someone write me up a good build for one. I am all for a pure build but not sure yet on a totem, if one at all.

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Re: Looking for a elf druid

Post by PresidentCthulhu » Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:31 am

For example:
Wis 17, Int: 16
1 sf: conj
3 gsf: conj
6 sf: trans
9 gsf: trans
12 blindfight
15 sf: evo
18 gsf: evo
21 esf: conj
24 dragon knight, esf: transmuation
27 esf: evo
28 greater ruin
30 hellball

I greatly recommend picking a totem.
Transmutation focus can be sacrificed for expertise + meta/craft + armored skin, but many ppl consider it staple for druids so the choice is yours. In pve druids are very easy anyway.
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Re: Looking for a elf druid

Post by mourisson1 » Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:47 am

PresidentCthulhu wrote:21 gsf: conj
Esf meant here, i suppose.
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Re: Looking for a elf druid

Post by BegoneThoth » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:24 am

Remember if you have 25 wisdom and 25 druid levels you can get a free epic feat from somewhere in game. Where and why and what Feats are, iirc, foig
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Re: Looking for a elf druid

Post by Harasha » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:38 am

Pure druids are ideal right now for the monolith elemental shapes, so you probably don't want to multiclass.

If a non-totem druid maybe Wild Elf (+2 con, -2 int) with 21 (ending) Con and the three EDR feats. Free toughness is also nice. -2 int hurts, you need 12 or 14.

If a totem I'd recommend wood or wild elf for the tracking abilities. Wild is still probably best.

Conj and Trans focuses through epic are pretty essential. I like extend spell too but you could probably do without.

If you can get to 25 wisdom you get dragon shape or a free epic feat.

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Re: Looking for a elf druid

Post by BegoneThoth » Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:53 am

Harasha wrote:Pure druids are ideal right now for the monolith elemental shapes, so you probably don't want to multiclass.

If a non-totem druid maybe Wild Elf (+2 con, -2 int) with 21 (ending) Con and the three EDR feats. Free toughness is also nice. -2 int hurts, you need 12 or 14.

If a totem I'd recommend wood or wild elf for the tracking abilities. Wild is still probably best.

Conj and Trans focuses through epic are pretty essential. I like extend spell too but you could probably do without.

If you can get to 25 wisdom you get dragon shape or a free epic feat.
I think wild elf just has neutral con, not +2 con. edr3 wild elf I think wouldn't be able to get the free druid 25 feat.
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Re: Looking for a elf druid

Post by PresidentCthulhu » Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:26 pm

mourisson1 wrote:
PresidentCthulhu wrote:21 gsf: conj
Esf meant here, i suppose.
Yup, thanks. I just made a quick post from my mobile. Edited.
What I wrote was an example of a standard-ish druid that is elf.
The optimal types are getting:
- 21 con and EDR as others mentioned (not ideal for elf though)
- human so they can squeeze in expertise and don't have to give up any spell focus

I think the 26/4 monk is still viable, but less OP than it was and a bit restrictive RP wise (lawful neutral and need to be monklike in attitude).

EDITED PS: As other said getting 25 wis is paramount and you get a free feat, but I immediately assumed it will be dragon shape. If you want something else feel free, you don't need DS with monolithic shape for much that is clear.
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Re: Looking for a elf druid

Post by TheRagingGoblin » Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:33 pm

25 druid / 5 monk

Plans to use free Dragon shape feat.

Why 5 monk? Full tumble AC, slightly better saves, evasion and discipline.

Totem is recommended.

Wild elf

Starting abilities

12 str
10 dex
14 con (appears as 12 at character creation)
14 int (appears as 16 at character creation)
16 wis (gift to 18)
8 cha

A major gift is spare. You could go +2 all saves or raise int for another skill. You have enough skill points that you don't need the intelligence.

Yes, it only reaches 25 wisdom. An odd number! If you don't go totem feel free to drop strength to 9 and increase wisdom to 17 pre gift. Or you could drop con to 10, up str to 13, put wis at 17 pre gift and still take a totem if you're fine with lower hp outside of shapes.

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Order of the epic feats doesn't matter too much. Take whatever you feel you want sooner rather than later except remember with the bonus feat at Druid 24 that only the ESFs may be selected.

Dropping IE for KD is worth considering.

Changing topic slightly..

Elf as EDR monolithic elemental is attainable. You don't need to worry about hitting 25 wisdom for the free dragon shape if you have the monolithic elemental shape available to you. After you have 19 wisdom you can easily get to 21 con. Am happy to post a modified build for that.

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Re: Looking for a elf druid

Post by Ozzy.nl » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:52 am

TheRagingGoblin wrote: build
What totem would be best?

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Re: Looking for a elf druid

Post by PresidentCthulhu » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:52 am

Ozzy.nl wrote:
TheRagingGoblin wrote: build
What totem would be best?
Best in what sense? If combat then bear, but there aren’t huge differences so pick what you like.
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Re: Looking for a elf druid

Post by Ozzy.nl » Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:55 pm

So it would not matter if I where to take wolf or panther. And more in the sense of PvE.

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Re: Looking for a elf druid

Post by PresidentCthulhu » Sat Feb 10, 2018 4:16 pm

Ozzy.nl wrote:So it would not matter if I where to take wolf or panther. And more in the sense of PvE.
There will be slight differences, but the cool factor is stronger as you will be staring on the said animal a lot and you should RP it slightly differently as they are connected to a virtue. :-)
If you pick wolf/panther it might worth to drop some points in move silently/hide imo.
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Re: Looking for a elf druid

Post by Ozzy.nl » Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:41 pm

Good point there Cthulhu.

Since this will be for EE mostly I am pondering about to take wolf or not. Not sure yet.
Yes i would like some points in hide MS but I am not sure if it will fit.

Before i forget, how donyou gear this build.

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Re: Looking for a elf druid

Post by One Two Three Five » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:45 pm

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There's some argument over whether to use the regen helmet or an AC helmet and a chaos shield loot item but for my money, the day I build my gearing out around a loot item I don't already have is the day I renew my WoW subscription and erase my memories of NWN for another couple years.

Note: Transmu Focus, Aura of Vitality, and Second Skin make most non-INT totems kind of pointless, unless you really want the skills they give. Or, not pointless, but more aesthetic, lets say.
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Re: Looking for a elf druid

Post by Ozzy.nl » Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:28 am

Is it just me, or does wild elf fit poorly with a monk class as the build above? From what i have been reading on the subject I just cant seem to get a monk class in the rp unless the wild elf left her tribal way of life behind for some reason.

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Re: Looking for a elf druid

Post by One Two Three Five » Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:44 am

Pure 30 druid is arguably better right now anyway.
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Re: Looking for a elf druid

Post by Ozzy.nl » Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:59 am

But only if you go for the EDR3 build?

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Re: Looking for a elf druid

Post by PresidentCthulhu » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:47 pm

To RP a Druid Monk as an elf is not necessarily hard, but is sure unusual for a race with mostly chaotic good tendencies.

My take on it: LN needs to be taken and it means that the character seeks order in all things. Laws of nature and the balance in all things. This is actually very close to what an enlightened monk would seek. I don’t think you need a monastery to actually become a monk, but it would take considerably longer time (something that an elf can afford). My personal take on it with my own character was that she spent nearly a century meditating in caves finding inner peace and becoming one with the nature.

Disclaimer: this is my take on it I don’t claim it to be the only or the best way. Otherwise I find the wiki page on arelith druids have a lot of help in interpretation

Ps: you don’t have to build edr to be good in PVE every single build listed here is confirmedly viable
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Re: Looking for a elf druid

Post by BegoneThoth » Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:12 pm

Just be wary of some of the common elf druid building pitfalls.

And EDR is in no way 'needed,' it's just really useful because unless you're banking on casting in combat, you'll be using forms, and EDR is one of the few feats that really help that out.

I also like Extend Spell, but that's really a quality of life thing.
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