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Spellscythe Master

Post by afreshstart » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:41 pm

So I had a build idea, which is horribly feat starved but I belive it might be fun to play for that sweet sweet criticals with a greensteel scythe.

Wizard(Spellsword)(23) Weapon master(7)

Race: Human

STR 16+2=18 (+6 end =24)
DEX 13
CON 13
WIS 8
INT 16+2=18 (+1 +1 great int end=20)
CHA 8

1-15 wizard
16-22 weapon master
23-30 wizard


Feats
1 w(1) Dodge, Expertise
3 w(3) Exotic Weapon prof.
4 w(4) {+1 str}
5 w(5) Extend Spell (Bonus wizard feat)
6 w(6) Weapon Focus Scythe
8 w(8) {+1str}
9 w(9) Mobility
10 w(10) Spell focus: Abjuration (Bonus wizard feat)
12 w(12) Spring attack {+1 str}
15 w(15) Whirlwind attack,Greater Spell focus: Abjuration (Bonus wizard feat)
16 wm(1) {+1 str}
18 wm(3) Improved Critical Scythe
20 wm(5) {+1 str}
21 wm(6) Epic Weapon Focus
24 w(17) Blind fight {+1 int}
27 w(20) Armorskin or Epic prowess ,great intelligence I (Bonus wizard feat)
28 w(21) +1 str
30 w(23) Epic Mage Armor (Bonus wizard feat), Epic skill focus: Discipline



I'm sure I made a lot of mistakes and there is plenty to improve, any suggestion is welcome
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Re: Spellscythe Master

Post by Aelryn Bloodmoon » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:07 pm

Edit 4: MFW. :lol: :oops:
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Re: Spellscythe Master

Post by TimeAdept » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:14 pm

You don't get general feats at 5 and 10. He can't take both.

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Re: Spellscythe Master

Post by afreshstart » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:21 pm

Well I decided to drop till spell feats since it's possible to use padded armor for 0% arcane spell failure. And I changed around the feats a bit, although I'm not sure about the blind fight coming in so late. I think the feats should be in order, the only choice is between extend spell and greater spell focus, and I don't expect this to be a great build, just a fun one. I'm aware it's a massively vulnerable to dispels. :D

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Re: Spellscythe Master

Post by Aelryn Bloodmoon » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:29 pm

TimeAdept wrote:You don't get general feats at 5 and 10. He can't take both.
http://wiki.arelith.com/Spellsword

This should be updated- it doesn't mention the loss of feats.
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Re: Spellscythe Master

Post by One Two Three Five » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:31 pm

Level 5- This is not an either/or thing. At 5th wizard level you gain a bonus metamagic feat. Take both.
They mean you can't take two feats at five.

afreshstart: you can use greensteel with no spell failure on a spellsword.
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Re: Spellscythe Master

Post by afreshstart » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:35 pm

One Two Three Five wrote:
Level 5- This is not an either/or thing. At 5th wizard level you gain a bonus metamagic feat. Take both.
They mean you can't take two feats at five.

afreshstart: you can use greensteel with no spell failure on a spellsword.
Oh, that's great! Then maybe it's best to drop maximize magic for another abjuration feat.

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Re: Spellscythe Master

Post by Baron Saturday » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:38 pm

Or just stick with padded armor - the armor of immolation is pretty amazing, though difficult to get.
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Re: Spellscythe Master

Post by afreshstart » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:49 pm

Baron Saturday wrote:Or just stick with padded armor - the armor of immolation is pretty amazing, though difficult to get.
I don't think it's that good for a spellsword since they have access to mestils and (epic) mage armour.

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Re: Spellscythe Master

Post by One Two Three Five » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:52 pm

It's decent for the armor's AC itself (non-overwriteable by spells) and +5 discipline, if not for the actual other properties. Although free elemental shield is pretty good.
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Re: Spellscythe Master

Post by afreshstart » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:58 pm

One Two Three Five wrote:It's decent for the armor's AC itself (non-overwriteable by spells) and +5 discipline, if not for the actual other properties. Although free elemental shield is pretty good.
Oh I forget about it's +5 discipline, that makes it a great one. Still, I don't think maximize spell is better than an abjuration feat, it can be replicated using many consumables.

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Re: Spellscythe Master

Post by One Two Three Five » Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:08 pm

Yeah, you could just scribe up some high level scrolls.
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Re: Spellscythe Master

Post by Freyason » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:41 am

Where are you guys getting that SS lose bonus wizard feats? None of the builds I saw reflect that

*edit "none" not "one" lol
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Re: Spellscythe Master

Post by Baron Saturday » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:39 am

They DON'T lose the bonus feats. Aelryn was suggesting that the build should take both the feats listed at levels 5 and 10, which is impossible because a wizard only gets a bonus feat at those levels, not a bonus feat + a general feat.

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Re: Spellscythe Master

Post by afreshstart » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:50 am

Wizards get bonus feats at class level 5 10 15 20, which can be only Arcane focus/defense, spell fcous , craft wand/potion or metamagic

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Re: Spellscythe Master

Post by Baron Saturday » Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:09 am

afreshstart wrote:Wizards get bonus feats at class level 5 10 15 20, which can be only Arcane focus/defense, spell fcous , craft wand/potion or metamagic
Yes.

Aaaaaanyway. I would only increase int to 19 and dump the other 6 into Str. Probably want to put the one point into int at 12 or 16. I'd also probably go for extend spell over arcane defense, since you already resist dispels as a level 26 with this build.

Is the bonus damage from int multiplied on a crit?
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Re: Spellscythe Master

Post by afreshstart » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:07 am

Baron Saturday wrote:
afreshstart wrote:Wizards get bonus feats at class level 5 10 15 20, which can be only Arcane focus/defense, spell fcous , craft wand/potion or metamagic
Yes.

Aaaaaanyway. I would only increase int to 19 and dump the other 6 into Str. Probably want to put the one point into int at 12 or 16. I'd also probably go for extend spell over arcane defense, since you already resist dispels as a level 26 with this build.

Is the bonus damage from int multiplied on a crit?
To be honest I'm not sure if it's multiplied, and you are right about the extend spell feat, I'll update the build. Is there any benefit to having 19 intellect over 18?

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Re: Spellscythe Master

Post by Kirito » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:36 am

afreshstart wrote: Is there any benefit to having 19 intellect over 18?
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Post by yellowcateyes » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:45 am

Baron Saturday wrote:Is the bonus damage from int multiplied on a crit?
It is.
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Re: Spellscythe Master

Post by Ebonstar » Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:08 pm

might be fun to play but hope you never go against anything that can hit for more than 100 points of damage since you will max out at level 30 with 150 or so.
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Re: Spellscythe Master

Post by One Two Three Five » Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:18 pm

With spellsword hp and +12 to con it should? Hit 418. Not exactly conlock or barb hp but not completely unworkable.
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Post by Ebonstar » Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:16 pm

One Two Three Five wrote:With spellsword hp and +12 to con it should? Hit 418. Not exactly conlock or barb hp but not completely unworkable.

d6 for 23 levels is 138 d10 for 7 is 70 con bonus of 1 for a 13 is 30 at max thats 218 not 418
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Re: Spellscythe Master

Post by One Two Three Five » Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:28 pm

+12 to con
I got some top-of-my-head addition wrong but like, eh.
6 magic items and spells con mod is 180 hp. +218 issssssssssss 398? woops, I guess. Found 20 hp somewhere.
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