One pre epic feat to choose but which one. ????

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One pre epic feat to choose but which one. ????

Post by Lost in the dark » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:50 pm

Have one final pre-epic feat to choose for a tanky full BAB class and looking for some advice. Choice is between:-

A. Toughness: Extra 30HP always good but if I'm cutting it that close I'm probably doing things wrong?

B. Resistance to Energy:- Does this stack with protective essences? If yes would guess Acid or Fire would be most useful.

C. Called shot:

D. Any other less popular feat?

Expert opinions (and others) welcome below.

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Re: One pre epic feat to choose but which one. ????

Post by One Two Three Five » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:58 pm

Knowing what feats you have is a good start. Wouldn't take called shot on a non-archer though, myself.
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Re: One pre epic feat to choose but which one. ????

Post by Lost in the dark » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:00 pm

All core feats taken including KD, IKD, Cleave and Whirlwind Attack (and all their pre-requisites. This is a bonus feat left over which I am trying to spend wisely.

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Re: One pre epic feat to choose but which one. ????

Post by Ork » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:43 pm

A. 30 HP can mean the difference from dying to living in a fight. Resistance to energy does not stack with essences.

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Re: One pre epic feat to choose but which one. ????

Post by Gods_Kill_People » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:50 pm

ESF KD

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Re: One pre epic feat to choose but which one. ????

Post by Freyason » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:29 pm

Toughness

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Re: One pre epic feat to choose but which one. ????

Post by Astral » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:55 pm

Toughness and Iron Will are likely the best options as both of them will actually safe your life sometimes.
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Re: One pre epic feat to choose but which one. ????

Post by dallion43 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:10 pm

I assume WM? You won't get 100% accurate advise without sharing class x/x/x, and current list of pre-epic feats.

Usually toughness, depends on your total hps at lvl 30.
+2 fort depends on if spellcraft taken/kensai. If no spellcraft +2 fort overide toughness, for example. Imho.

I would consider also imp.expertise.

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Re: One pre epic feat to choose but which one. ????

Post by Sockss » Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:20 am

Epic Energy Resistance / Resist Energy do stack with resistances on items (Like essences would give)

So a 5/- acid essence and Epic Energy Resistance feat would give you 15/- Acid resistance.

The Epic feat doesn't stack with the pre-epic feat however. (So EER + RE doesn't give 15/- resistance)

That said, toughness is definitely the way to go here out of the options given and with no other info! (Although, if you don't have Expertise / Improved Expertise, go for that.)
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Re: One pre epic feat to choose but which one. ????

Post by Lost in the dark » Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:19 am

Looks like toughness is the way to go. Expertise and Improved Expertise were much earlier life saving buys and both seem essential to pretty much any front line meleeer. Thanks all.

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Re: One pre epic feat to choose but which one. ????

Post by Jack Oat » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:00 am

Lost in the dark wrote: A. Toughness: Extra 30HP always good but if I'm cutting it that close I'm probably doing things wrong?
You should never think this. If you can save your life more times by getting that little bit more HP, do it. Even on my WM, having that extra 30 HP has saved me a number of times both in PvE and PvP.

Toughness is 100% the way to go.

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