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Monk Arcane Archer Build

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:01 pm
by Skalding
Been curious about making one, but I can't seem to figure out if Zen archery would be the way to go. That would definitely influence how I lay out my attributes. Does anyone have insight, tips, or tricks?

Re: Monk Arcane Archer Build

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:19 pm
by Kirito
Skalding wrote:Been curious about making one, but I can't seem to figure out if Zen archery would be the way to go. That would definitely influence how I lay out my attributes. Does anyone have insight, tips, or tricks?

It seems to be counter synergy to go Zen.

Either you put all into wisdom and be rubbish at melee, or you are splitting between strength and wisdom where at least one will suffer a bit

Re: Monk Arcane Archer Build

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:59 pm
by Seyormi
or dex build, with a finessed quarterstaff OOOOOOHHH!

Re: Monk Arcane Archer Build

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:00 pm
by Seyormi
that you RP as his bow unstrung OOOOOHHH!

Re: Monk Arcane Archer Build

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:54 pm
by Kirito
Seyormi wrote:or dex build, with a finessed quarterstaff OOOOOOHHH!

Would be pointless taking Zen archery then ;)

Re: Monk Arcane Archer Build

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:39 am
by Astral
Zen Archery is optimistic and hard to pull off. It is slightly weaker than dex based version of this build but it by no means useless (except in melee. quite useless in melee).

pros
-wis ac remains when flat footed
-wis gives will save which is more important than reflex (since you got nice reflex regardless and you also have imp evasion)
-wis gives Spot which is a super nice boon for RP in my opinion (since you can get like 80 spot, gl disguising against that)
-insane stunning fist dc (so you can cheese people with truestrike/divine power if you want)

cons
-no melee. at all. nothing.
-suboptimal stealth mode
-less synergy with race and gear (means you have -1 ab and ac in comparison to the dex build end game)

Re: Monk Arcane Archer Build

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:53 am
by Lorkas
Add to that list of cons: WIS AC doesn't count against touch attacks.

Re: Monk Arcane Archer Build

PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:43 am
by Skalding
Maybe Zen archery wouldn't be best for me, lol.

For the DEX based version of this build how much should I invest in WIS and CHA (for the few Bard levels I'll take)? Would it be worth going for bard spells beyond level one?

Re: Monk Arcane Archer Build

PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:03 am
by Astral
Nope.
8 wis, 8 cha. from building perspective.
Essentially you want to go 6 monk, 3 bard and start aa. 9th monk lvl comes at 21 and 4th bard lvl comes at lvl 30.

Re: Monk Arcane Archer Build

PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:33 pm
by gilescorey
If you go for monk/bard/aa, remember to be a full Elf, not a half-Elf; otherwise you won't be getting longbow proficiency!