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Seeking Melee Cleric build
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:50 pm
by Drowling34
I'm looking for help on making a human cleric/fighter/rogue or cleric/bg/rogue, something really nasty in pve and pvp. Thanks.
Re: Seeking Melee Cleric build
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:56 pm
by gilescorey
WhereButterfliesGoToDie, over a year ago now jesus wrote:No. Nooooo. BATTLECLERIC.
23 cleric, 4 fighter, 3 rogue
Travel/Trickery domains
Race: Orc(because you're a man)
Str: 16(18 post gift)
Dex: 8
Con: 14(16 post gift)
Int: 14
Wis: 15(17 post gift)
Cha: 6(because you're a man)
3x points into wis leveling up, slam 4x into str, taking them to 20 and 22 respectively.
Gear all into str/con, ending at 34, 28 buffed.
Skills: Disc, concentration, spellcraft, tumble, UMD - take UMD on rogue bonus points, no need to save for it.
1 cleric - expertise
2 cleric
3 cleric - imp expertise
4 cleric
5 cleric
6 cleric - knockdown
7 cleric
8 cleric
9 cleric - blind fight
10 cleric
12 cleric - focus: evocation
13 cleric
14 cleric
15 cleric - g. focus: evocation
16 cleric
17 cleric
18 fighter - w. focus scimitar, imp crit scimitar
19 fighter - imp knockdown
20 fighter
21 cleric - epic w. focus scimitar
22 cleric
23 cleric
24 cleric - greater ruin
25 rogue
26 rogue
27 rogue - armor skin
28 cleric
29 fighter - weapon spec scimitar
30 cleric - epic focus evocation, hellball
Taking g.ruin before esf evo seems arbitrary, but you can't take an epic spell on cleric bonus feats. You can take epic focuses however. Hence the esf has to land on the 23rd cleric bonus feat, or you'll be sacrificing a general feat or epic spell.
I am well aware that only 3 fighter pre-epic does NOT yield you a passive 4 APR, but Divine Power, which is a buff you'll use for any serious combat will give you a 4th APR at full BAB, similiar to how Haste does, making a 3 APR cleric actually stronger than a 4 APR one, given the 4th attack then gaining the full BAB.
A human could fit extend spell on the bonus feat, which is handy. But what fun is that.
You are now the orc warlord of the universe.
These days it's probably better to use conjuration instead of evocation but this is by far the most informative "how2cleric" post on the forums, and I don't want to type things that have already been typed by some goblin man.
Re: Seeking Melee Cleric build
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:13 pm
by flower
I think there is not a lot to think out and most of battle clerics will look same, difference just in type of spell focus and epic spells.
Re: Seeking Melee Cleric build
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:20 pm
by High Primate
Drowling34 wrote:I'm looking for help on making a human cleric/fighter/rogue or cleric/bg/rogue, something really nasty in pve and pvp. Thanks.
Just be advised that there are limits to how well a battlecleric performs in PvP. It has a long setup time and is really vulnerable to Mords scrolls.
Re: Seeking Melee Cleric build
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:23 pm
by flower
The duration of spells, especially when extended, allows to be warded with basic spells. But yes still a long list of spells to build up offensive capabilities.
Re: Seeking Melee Cleric build
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:28 pm
by Peppermint
Don't go orc, though. You don't need to be a man. Embrace your inner woman instead!
Re: Seeking Melee Cleric build
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:30 pm
by High Primate
Go human and take extend spell.
Re: Seeking Melee Cleric build
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:25 am
by Astral
you can go orc... woman... 6 cha... why not enjoy all worlds at once.
Re: Seeking Melee Cleric build
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:24 am
by Meliboeus
Can you take Greater Ruin as early as suggested above? I don't think you can. Consider a metamagic instead like Extend Spell (and take it early in the build).
Re: Seeking Melee Cleric build
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:28 am
by Cortex
GR is able to be picked as early as 23 if you have a feat at that level, but since most builds don't, you usually take it at 24.
Prerequisite: 21st level, the ability to cast 9th level spells, spellcraft 25
Re: Seeking Melee Cleric build
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:22 am
by Meliboeus
My bad - I thought the build above took four fighter pre-epic. Which wouldn't make sense from a Divine Power perspective anyway.
Re: Seeking Melee Cleric build
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:47 am
by Tetra
What's a good fighting cleric build for a small race with -2 strength? I'm having a hard time figuring this one out since dex based cleric rogue seems weak and healer cleric/ monk seems iffy.
Re: Seeking Melee Cleric build
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:52 pm
by High Primate
Tetra wrote:What's a good fighting cleric build for a small race with -2 strength? I'm having a hard time figuring this one out since dex based cleric rogue seems weak and healer cleric/ monk seems iffy.
Essentially the same build as above. You get -1 to AB and damage, and you lose out on a feat since you're not human, but otherwise it's vastly superior to a dex cleric (which is cancer). You will need IKD.
Cleric/Monk is always bad.
You could also play a caster cleric, but I assume that that's not what you're looking for given that you describe this as a "fighting cleric".