-project_image

[Wytchee]

What companion slot does the image from -project_image take up? Would, say, a druid be able to keep her animal companion around, or a summon?

Does the image take the form of whatever shape the PC is in when it's cast (totem form, for instance)? Thanks!

[Rwby]

It's a Summon slot, so it will dispel all of your other summons on cast.

[Wytchee]

It's a Summon slot, so it will dispel all of your other summons on cast.

Meaning it won't touch the animal companion, right?

[Rwby]

It's a Summon slot, so it will dispel all of your other summons on cast.

Meaning it won't touch the animal companion, right?

Shouldn't touch Animal Companions, Familiars, or Henchmen, no.

Will not stack with - Any regular Summon, Any Regular Undead Summon, any shadow summon, any other castings of itself.

[Wytchee]

That's all I wanted to know. Thanks a bunch!

[Hatsune Miku]

Does the image take the form of whatever shape the PC is in when it's cast (totem form, for instance)?

Yes, even from shapeshifting spells.

[Wytchee]

Yes, even from shapeshifting spells.

Neat. Thanks!

[WanderingPoet]

Hijacking for a related question - what about the Shadowdancer summon shadow, is it a summon or henchmen? Specifically can you -project_image and SD summon shadow at the same time?

[Peppermint]

Project Image is a henchman.

Shadowdancer Shadows are summons.

[Wytchee]

Okay two more questions. (Druids don't get any illusion spells, so I'm essentially wasting three feats for the RP coolness factor and I wanna know what I'm going to get out of it).

1. Does it actually do anything mechanically? I hear it can -guard but I sincerely doubt that.

2. Can I rename it/does it adopt whatever name I have via disguise?

Thanks again.

[Baron Saturday]

SD Shadows can -guard the caster, and do so by default (unless they're broken again). SD shadows also give the SD 1d6 sneak attack/3 levels of the shadow. Shadow level = SD level +5, and another +5 with Epic Shadowlord.

The -project_image copy is an exact copy of your character. From the wiki: "The copy can fight, but it cannot cast spells, it will last 1 hour per caster level, and it will have a copy of all your gear. On top of that, you can speak through the copy using the -a command, and as well everything that it hears will be relayed to you through the combat log."

I've personally seen the ability to speak and hear through the image used very effectively in a pre-meeting situation. Just depends on how creative you get with it.

[Dr_Hazard89]

Unless it's been fixed recently, you can no longer hear through them.

[Peppermint]

Correct, you can't. It was removed due to conflicts with our language system.

Note to self: investigate a workaround sometime.

[Wytchee]

Resurrecting this thread to get a clearer answer.

I am a totem druid. In humanoid form, my character has 8 constitution. In totem form (at level 21), my character will have 32 constitution.

Let's say I shifted into totem form and then cast -project_image. Would the copy be a copy of my totem form? Would it have 8 constitution, or 32 constitution? Same with dragon shape, etc?

Or did I just waste three feats?

I'd like a dev to reply, if possible, for absolute clarity. Thanks.

[Cortex]

-project_image dispels all buffs you currently have, while I assume it will dispel any Polymorph effect, only testing will show.

[Wytchee]

-project_image dispels all buffs you currently have, while I assume it will dispel any Polymorph effect, only testing will show.

If this is true, it means the entire theme of my character that I've been building since level 3 is not only nonviable, but impossible.

RIP me, and thanks a whole bunch to the person who told me I would be able to project a mechanically useful image of my totem/shapechange form for the coolness factor.

Bleh. Time to delevel.

[Jagel]

Don't delevel until Cortex' info is confirmed.

[Peppermint]

Confirming.

It's not meant to synergize with polymorph spells. If it does, that's a bug, and I certainly wouldn't build around it.

[Hatsune Miku]

https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/GC4tCLV.png

Whether or not the image takes on any of its stats and such accurately, I haven't a clue since documenting has gone out the window for this mechanic for some reason.

But there you go, I'm not talking out of my Snuggybear.

[Hatsune Miku]

https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/GC4ECQi.png
Left is the stats of the PC in Shapechange: Red Dragon, right is the stats of the image.
Minus the additional stats that get added to the image due to RDD bonuses being added twice over (bug), and you have an exact copy of you during polymorph. I broke it, awesome.

Too bad I'm not a git gud build and this isn't even worth casting except for RP spooking.

-project_image dispels all buffs you currently have, while I assume it will dispel any Polymorph effect, only testing will show.

Since when?

[Peppermint]

Since always.

We explicitly mentioned this shortly after the ability's implementation. I apologize that it seems this was never uploaded to the wiki; but project image dispels all buffs.

It was never intended to copy polymorphs. Prospects such as cloned dragonshapers should suggest why.

[Hatsune Miku]

Then the wiki is pretty accurate in not detailing it, because the PC is not dispelled of anything in game at all currently. The image doesn't carry over any of the buffs, except in the odd case above.

If it's going to be fixed, can I seriously suggest looking at an alternative / rework of the illusion focus ability? Being dispelled to cast a useless image that has dismal control and can't fool a single player mechanically... Seriously, what's the point?

[Peppermint]

Thanks for the report, then. I'll be sure to look into it.

At any rate, -disguise hasn't ever fooled mechanically, either.

But it's still a useful roleplay skill.

Bear in mind that Arelith is a roleplay server, and some things will be designed primarily with roleplay in mind.

[Yellena]

Was the ability to morph into a troll/zombie/fey and copy yourself unintended?
The carry over stats were bad enough to make them useless in fight (as intended) but was soooo much fun to use it in RPs

[Cortex]

Being dispelled to cast a useless image that has dismal control and can't fool a single player mechanically... Seriously, what's the point?

You'd be surprised, me and others have done it successfully, to the point of receiving shocked tells afterward. Including in PvP.