Seeking the Laws of Lolth

[Maladus]

Looking for someone who has this tidbit of information from days gone by. I can’t seem to find it anywhere in game, though I wouldn’t be surprised if I missed it. If anyone can relate these to me in a PM I’d be grateful, thanks.

[A little fellow]

Laws? Lolth is about as chaotic as it gets to my knowledge. The only law that can be thought of is the constant need to appease The Spider Queen, which usually happens at the death of another Drow, either murdered or sacrificed .. but murdering other races also has its advantages. The more you appease Lolth, the more favour you will find with her. Those that are out of favour must find favour through sacrifice or murder, or be sacrificed and murdered .. it's just an unending spiral of death, really.

[Ebonstar]

i had them written down from the pillars that used to stand in udos, but i will have to go see if i can find them.

Durvayas may have them more accessible.

[flower]

Just hit google it was based on her dogma all.

[afreshstart]

At the house Fret, there is a lot of written IIRC

[HinAttack]

Did you try the Sorcere? I think there are some open books in there that speak of the history of Udos.

[Durvayas]

i had them written down from the pillars that used to stand in udos, but i will have to go see if i can find them.

Durvayas may have them more accessible.

Sadly, I am of no assistance in this matter. The pillar was decorated with a player made set of lolth's laws that evolved from in game traditions and long term roleplay. I don't have a copy. I think I know someone who might though. I'll get back to you all.

[Dr. B]

Laws? Lolth is about as chaotic as it gets to my knowledge.

Chaotically-aligned beings and institutions can have laws. "Law" when used in the context of the alignment system means something a bit more technical than how it's commonly used.

[Versatile]

I also had some written down on another toon. I'll go searching through my notes and see if I can find anything.

[Sab1]

Her Dogma is:

Fear is as strong as steel, while love and respect are soft and useless. Convert or destroy nonbeliever drow. Weed out the weak and the rebellious. Destroy impugners of the faith. Sacrifice males, slaves, and those of other races who ignore the commands of Lolth or her clerics. Raise children to praise and fear Lolth, each family should produce at least one cleric to serve her. Questioning Lolth’s motives or wisdom is a sin, as is aiding nondrow against the drow, or ignoring Lolth’s commands for the sake of a lover. Revere arachnids of all kinds; those who kill or mistreat a spider must die.

[EnigmaticSpirit]

Let us also remember there's a lot more to a religion than the written dogma.

[Maladus]

Well reciting those laws is part of the initiation rites for the temple, so knowing them is kind of important.

[Sab1]

I know those were the laws posted inside Udos. So I assume when people say laws that's what they mean.

[Kalopsia]

http://arelith.com/ea/index.php/The_Eig ... ned_Spider

There's quite a lot of other old Udos documents on the Encyclopedia Arelithica.

[Ork]

Create new ones.

[MoreThanThree]

Is the despot with endless laws, who doesn't follow them yet expects her subjects to follow, not chaotic? The strictest examples of regimes do not follow their own rules, yet still enforce them.
EDIT: Make something illegal (like enslaving other Drow) and do it

[Mithreas]

Since I happen to have a mod from 2009 lying around...

Code: Select all

  switch (random)
  {
    case 0:
      sMessage = "Lolth's Favor. We have it. We were and remain Her first children above even you. Where you must strive and endeavor to follow Her way, we ARE Her way. Be as we and perhaps she will smile upon you. A venom dripping fanged toothed smile! [laughter]";
      break;
    case 1:
      sMessage = "We are without doubt. We serve the Goddess with strength of conviction and unbreakable will. We do naut sympathize or falter in our duties. We do as we must, without remorse, knowing full well the possible consequences and all that we might risk in Her name. We have Faith.";
      break;
    case 2:
      sMessage = "Webs. Elegant and fragile they may seem from without. But from within they are labyrinthian and terrifyingly strong! We spinn our webs well to entice and ensnare. Layer upon layer we build, always adapting themm to the changes Chaos offers, ready to abandon them wholly and start anew if we must. But never are we simple or direct. Each web we spin is unique and deadly!";
      break;
    case 3:
      sMessage = "Patience. We hang silently in our webs, sometimes waiting ages without moving at all. We seem still. The web does naut tremor or betray our presence in any way. But inside we are alive with venom! It seethes within us building up over even years long tim of anger and rage. But we are patient. We know how good it will be when we sink our fangs in and fill them up with our burning!";
      break;
    case 4:
      sMessage = "Power. We are mighty because we are balanced. We have strength, cunning, and grace all in equal measure no one overwhelming the others. You can never be as perfect as we are but you must try, for the Goddess will accept nauthing less. Strength of arms, a mind full of deceits, and silent feet treading gracefully through the shadows. An excess or lack of any is weakness.";
      break;
    case 5:
      sMessage = "Emotions. We show none. We are cold and purposeful in all we do. We face battle without fear, but just as well and efficently do we retreat so that we may return to strike once more. Rage might fill our thoughts. Hate might pound in our blood. But you will never see it. We will never let you see that deep.";
      break;
    case 6:
      sMessage = "Family. Mother rejoice as your offspring devour one another! Only the strongest and the most cunning should be tolerated to live, for only they have any chance of satisfying your own hunger one day!";
      break;
    case 7:
      sMessage = "Males. Males are weak. Their emotions and their lack of control over their instincts make them so. We sit in our webs and they are drawn to our dark beauty. Fatalistic they are for they know full well that we will destroy and devour them. Nevertheless they come to us and beg us for our favors. We take our pleasures, and then feast upon them!";
      break;
  }

[Ebonstar]

Mith for the win

[Oh Jinkies, I Cant See Without My Glasses]

"Males. Males are weak. Their emotions and their lack of control over their instincts make them so."
I love this line, it really shows how upside down the entire Drow culture is. Stereotypically, it's always the women who are considered the emotion-filled ones and they lack control over those emotions and here come the Drow and basically make them into glorified man-slaves, who are still miles above regular slaves. It's such a strange power-struggle, especially if a male happens to somehow become a person of power in Drow society. A lot of good RP opportunities there.

[flower]

There is no such thing like drow society in Andunor right now, haha

[Xanos950]

There is no such thing like drow society in Andunor right now, haha

Things are getting better now that people stopped being heretics for the lulzs.

Don't worry, we're going to Make Andunor Great Again! ... one of these days.

[flower]

There is no such thing like drow society in Andunor right now, haha

Things are getting better now that people stopped being heretics for the lulzs.

Don't worry, we're going to Make Andunor Great Again! ... one of these days.

I would just like if you were right. Drow society is the centre where drow rp spins around, regardless of deity actually.

However so far despite sheer numbers, there is no significant person standing out for a leadership, i have not met any sign of wish for any coordinated play, only fractioned individuals or mini-groups. Most quaters, estates in whole city are held by non drow, which also does not help a lot to further any attempts to unite population

It got into the point, any time any of my Eilsitraeens talk to their surface contacts and mention drow/drow factions in Andunor those guys from surface laugh them out and my characters get to feel ashamed lol.

[Dr. B]

i have not met any sign of wish for any coordinated play, only fractioned individuals or mini-groups. Most quaters, estates in whole city are held by non drow, which also does not help a lot to further any attempts to unite population

If I didn't know better I'd say you just described a society of Lolthites.

[flower]

i have not met any sign of wish for any coordinated play, only fractioned individuals or mini-groups. Most quaters, estates in whole city are held by non drow, which also does not help a lot to further any attempts to unite population

If I didn't know better I'd say you just described a society of Lolthites.

And you would be wrong, because even traditional society in books is strickly community tied together fighting off any outsider (non drow). Outsiders first, heretics second, even if houses fight each other they would follow that pattern, sadly never to be seen to be done by players here.

There are tens of new drow characters, but they never sticked more than few days....no wonder because new player makes a new drow, joins the game, encounters this:

1) no drow faction existing (least not on public)
2) no racial related feature
3) drow being killed in hub openly by non drow and no drow lifting a brow
4) no overall drow community, only small bands, often dependant on non drow participiants
5) after few days, often bossed over by some higher level drow
6) and even if all of this did not také their desire to play drow, they die few times to the spawns (not knowing server) logging and not playing again

When you make a new drow, you get a feeling like when playing an elf in cordor.

[afreshstart]

There are several drow factions I'm aware of, and I know 2 cases of non-drow getting killled because of giving trouble to drow in the last 3 days. So I think you are a bit exaggerating