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Build Advice for Favoured Soul/Blackguard

Post by God In Action » Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:44 pm

The basic concept is a combat focused Favoured Soul/ BG, with 16 miniumum BG for Epic Fiendish summon (which with Greater Conjuration focus gives access to the Balor which the Fiendish Warlock gets, right?).

My options for the remaining 14 levels are either A) 10 Bard/ 4 Fighter, B) or 14 Bard. I'm not sure which would be better. Option A has the advantages of Imp. Knockdown, Weapon Specialisation, +1 AB, a little more HP, whilst Option B has 5th circle casting, more 4th circle spells, +4 Greater Magic Weapon (so I can go for the Keen/+1d4/+1d4/+1d4 enchanted weapon), longer spell durations, a few more skill points, and an earlier acquisition of the BG feats I want.

I'm leaning more towards the Option B of 14 Bard levels, even though it is relatively feat starved. Can anyone suggestion if this is the right choice, or if there is a better option C which I haven't considered?

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Re: Build Advice for Favoured Soul/Blackguard

Post by Thake » Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:03 pm

"Better" in terms of..?
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Re: Build Advice for Favoured Soul/Blackguard

Post by God In Action » Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:07 pm

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Re: Build Advice for Favoured Soul/Blackguard

Post by Yellena » Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:34 pm

Unless it changed recently, GMW won't work on any weapons with magical properties on it.

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Re: Build Advice for Favoured Soul/Blackguard

Post by God In Action » Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:41 pm

Ah. Well this changes things significantly.

EDIT: Can weapon buffing spells be casting together on the same plain weapon? I.e. GMW and Keen Edge?

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Re: Build Advice for Favoured Soul/Blackguard

Post by JediMindTrix » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:00 pm

No. The Ranger spell Blade Thirst will stack though.

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Re: Build Advice for Favoured Soul/Blackguard

Post by The Man of the Moon » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:11 pm

Yellena wrote:Unless it changed recently, GMW won't work on any weapons with magical properties on it.
Yep, didn't changed.
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Re: Build Advice for Favoured Soul/Blackguard

Post by msterswrdsmn » Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:13 pm

Divine Might will stack with GMW. I'm assuming you have that if you're playing a bard/BG, right?

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Re: Build Advice for Favoured Soul/Blackguard

Post by God In Action » Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:59 pm

Yes, Divine Might + Shield. Pumping Strength on gear and Charisma on stat improvements.

Now that I know GMW can't stack, I think a normal weapon will do just fine. I've gone with 10 bard/ 4 Fighter option, especially since I realised I can take the 4th fighter level in epics, and get Epic Weapon specialisation too.

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Re: Build Advice for Favoured Soul/Blackguard

Post by CragOneEye » Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:36 am

God In Action wrote:Yes, Divine Might + Shield. Pumping Strength on gear and Charisma on stat improvements.

Now that I know GMW can't stack, I think a normal weapon will do just fine. I've gone with 10 bard/ 4 Fighter option, especially since I realised I can take the 4th fighter level in epics, and get Epic Weapon specialisation too.
That's what I did as caster, was 10 BG, 4 ftr and 16 Bard, but went with normal bard so could get max AC dodge buff form his song, also was more mmm in character to go with normal bard than any other class as he was a clown. Any how I used normal weapons for him given the issue that GMW won't work on anything but bronze non-essence/enchanted weapons.

GMW won't stack with Keen, or Darkfire or the mage version of that but it will stack with all other offensive buffs so as long as they're not weapon specific but dmg and AB specific. Meaning so long as the buff will stay regardless of which weapon you use.

Also let me know if gsf conjuration works on the BG feat as am considering similar/ maybe same build for a future gnoll.
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Re: Build Advice for Favoured Soul/Blackguard

Post by grip » Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:42 am

You can put temp essances on GMW'd weapons, also.

EDIT* You can also: Cast GMW on the sword, enchant it with Keen, put a Temp Essence on it and have a very expensive temporary +5 Keen +d6 weapon.
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Re: Build Advice for Favoured Soul/Blackguard

Post by CragOneEye » Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:47 am

Forgot those two notes but yes.
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Re: Build Advice for Favoured Soul/Blackguard

Post by CragOneEye » Sat Jun 13, 2015 7:50 am

God In Action wrote:The basic concept is a combat focused Favoured Soul/ BG, with 16 miniumum BG for Epic Fiendish summon (which with Greater Conjuration focus gives access to the Balor which the Fiendish Warlock gets, right?).

My options for the remaining 14 levels are either A) 10 Bard/ 4 Fighter, B) or 14 Bard. I'm not sure which would be better. Option A has the advantages of Imp. Knockdown, Weapon Specialisation, +1 AB, a little more HP, whilst Option B has 5th circle casting, more 4th circle spells, +4 Greater Magic Weapon (so I can go for the Keen/+1d4/+1d4/+1d4 enchanted weapon), longer spell durations, a few more skill points, and an earlier acquisition of the BG feats I want.

I'm leaning more towards the Option B of 14 Bard levels, even though it is relatively feat starved. Can anyone suggestion if this is the right choice, or if there is a better option C which I haven't considered?

Any mmm ideas on what stats would be for this build/skills/feats and what have you?
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