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Rooshi49
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Keen Edge's duration

Post by Rooshi49 » Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:24 pm

Keen Edge's duration in game states that its 10 minutes / level. . . . but correct me if I'm wrong. If its 10 minutes in game per level, isnt' that the same as one turn?

1 Round = 6 seconds IRL
1 Turn = 1 minute IRL
Everything in NWN is sped up by 10x , so . . . 1 minute IRL is 10 minutes IG

Unless its just written as if interpreted to be 10 minutes IRL. Then its longer than 1 hour / level (IG) which is 6 minutes (IRL) / level.
I'm confused ._.

I casted it on myself as a lvl 20 caster and it lasted way way way shorter than my other 1hour/level buffs like the Zoo buffs and mage armor. Which brings to question . .

How long does it last?

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Re: Keen Edge's duration

Post by Aelryn Bloodmoon » Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:11 pm

1 Round = 6 RL seconds.
1 Turn = 10 rounds = 60 RL seconds = 1 Minute
10 Minutes/Level is effectively 10 Turns/Level.

At caster level 20 the spell should last 200 minutes, or 3 hours and 20 minutes. But I'm uncertain if 10 minutes/Level is done in game time or RL time. Given I doubt that you stood around for 3 hours and 20 minutes to wait for your keen edge to expire, I'm going to guess it's in game time, which would be closer to 20 minutes RL time (which validates your theory that it's effectively lasting the same amount of time as a turns/level spell).
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Re: Keen Edge's duration

Post by yellowcateyes » Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:57 pm

Keen Edge is 2 minutes / level on Arelith. This wasn't changed in the most recent update, so it was most likely a change that happened years ago, around when the weapon buffs were first nerfed to not stack with each other.
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Re: Keen Edge's duration

Post by Rooshi49 » Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:25 pm

yellowcateyes wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:57 pm
Keen Edge is 2 minutes / level on Arelith. This wasn't changed in the most recent update, so it was most likely a change that happened years ago, around when the weapon buffs were first nerfed to not stack with each other.
Are you sure about this? Its not on the wiki. I can go and report it on the missing / wrong wiki forum.
It does feel right though. It definitely not 10 minutes / level.

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Re: Keen Edge's duration

Post by Freyason » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:13 am

Camouflage which is 10 min/level is definitely 10 rl minutes

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Re: Keen Edge's duration

Post by MissEvelyn » Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:41 pm

I can see where the confusion might stem from.

In spell descriptions, 'hours' count as IG hours, while minutes are RL minutes.
A turn will always be a RL minute, while a round is always 6 RL seconds.

Keep in mind that wands, scrolls, and spells from items are fixed in spell levels.


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Re: Keen Edge's duration

Post by MineTurtle » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:12 pm

MissEvelyn wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:41 pm
I can see where the confusion might stem from.

In spell descriptions, 'hours' count as IG hours, while minutes are RL minutes.
A turn will always be a RL minute, while a round is always 6 RL seconds.

Keep in mind that wands, scrolls, and spells from items are fixed in spell levels.
And this folks, is why we should all vote for 'Engine Upgrades' for the next major Arelith project!

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Re: Keen Edge's duration

Post by yellowcateyes » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:08 pm

Rooshi49 wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:25 pm
yellowcateyes wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:57 pm
Keen Edge is 2 minutes / level on Arelith. This wasn't changed in the most recent update, so it was most likely a change that happened years ago, around when the weapon buffs were first nerfed to not stack with each other.
Are you sure about this? Its not on the wiki. I can go and report it on the missing / wrong wiki forum.
It does feel right though. It definitely not 10 minutes / level.
About as sure as you can be when looking at the code itself.
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