Essenced masterly damask enchantment

[Yesman]

I think the answer is pretty obvious but maybe I'll be surprised.

If I try to enchant a masterly damask rapier with keen, then the cost is 2,530 XP and 25,300 GP.

If I try to enchant a masterly damask rapier that already has a permanent 1d6 essence, is the risk higher, or is the essence miraculously ignored? If it's higher - is it significantly higher?

[Kuma]

It'll be higher, but whether it's significantly higher is a) unknown to me and b) dependant on what you consider a significant step up from 2.5kXP and 25kGP.

[Yesman]

It'll be higher, but whether it's significantly higher is a) unknown to me and b) dependant on what you consider a significant step up from 2.5kXP and 25kGP.

Yeah, true. I can't name a number right now. I guess it's those situations where I'll know once I see what the penalty actually is.

I just don't want to purchase a weapon that's for sale currently for 40k, and find out that the additional cost in XP is too high once I come to enchant it, so I thought there might be an answer here.

[The Rambling Midget]

It doesn't change the cost that much. Maybe a few thousand GP more. In the end, it'll be faster for you to blow the extra XP/GP in an attempt, and get closer to your Keen MD, than to toss it aside and waste more time looking for weapons to enchant.

[Yesman]

It doesn't change the cost that much. Maybe a few thousand GP more. In the end, it'll be faster for you to blow the extra XP/GP in an attempt, and get closer to your Keen MD, than to toss it aside and waste more time looking for weapons to enchant.

You might be right.

I can override an essence with any other, right?

[The Rambling Midget]

Correct.

[Yesman]

Thanks.

Who needs XP anyway, eh?

[The Rambling Midget]

Well, the point I was trying to make is that if you have the better weapon, you'll have a much easier time getting the XP back. It's an investment. Especially with the ridiculousness that is a rapier.

[Yesman]

[goes to enchant]
[comes back]

Yeah, you owe me 70k, TRM >: (

[The Rambling Midget]

Caveat emptor!

[Yesman]

Caveat venditor!

Welp, time to look for another rapier.

Oh, and if anyone is curious:

The XP penalty for a masterly damask is 2,530.
The XP penalty for a masterly damask with a 1d6 essence is 3,090.

[P Three]

Can't you add the essence -after- enchanting?

[The Rambling Midget]

Can't you add the essence -after- enchanting?

Yes. However, I believe that the essence was already there because Yesman bought the weapon used, from a shop.

[Yesman]

Can't you add the essence -after- enchanting?

Wait...

You can do what?!

[Razmo_de]

Can't you add the essence -after- enchanting?

Wait...

You can do what?!

Lol, did you buy a sword and an essence separately, put the essence on and then tried to enchant?
You can just try to enchant until you get your keen masterly damask and then add your essence.
Saves a lot of them essences.
The only time you need to add an essence before enchanting, is when you try to add elemental damage via the basin. The essence only removes existing elemental damage.
So if you want a sword with
+4 dmg (divine)
+1d4 dmg (positive)
+1d4 dmg (fire)
you need to add divine first via essence and then enchant with positive and fire. Otherwise divine essence would remove existing positive or fire damage properties.
Needless to say, that is prohibitively expensive and needs an essence for every fail.

Btw, do they still sell Duergar hammers?

[Yellena]

If you find an essenced weapon in a shop, you can try to put a crappy essence on it to lower it's price before enchanting.

[Yesman]

Razmo, I was just trolling with that comment of mine

Yellena's idea is smart. That honestly didn't cross my mind. Oh well.