Disguise. I miss it.

[Dachlatte]

No idea if this was posted already, but is there a chance we can get the Disguise system back anytime soon?
Regards!
A rogue

[PinataPlethora]

Waiting on the NWNX team. No promises.

[Dachlatte]

Thank you. It feels good that someone cares. No stress.

[MalKalz]

When Liareth has time they may be able to work on it.

[Void]

When Liareth has time they may be able to work on it.

Is there a specific issue, or is it something that can only be solved with beamdog cooperation?

[PinataPlethora]

My understanding is that there's a NWNX plugin required to make the disguise system work, but every time Beamdog updates EE, the NWNX plugins have to be tweaked to match. It was nice and stable for the years when 1.69 was definitive, but now that the game is in development again, NWNX will have to be actively developed alongside it. That takes more work than just making a plugin and being finished, so there will likely be fewer consistently available plugins until EE development settles down.

[JediMindTrix]

We traded Disguise for Individualized Armor Part Coloring

[BegoneThoth]

My heart goes out to the career disguise players.

[Void]

My understanding is that there's a NWNX plugin required to make the disguise system work, but every time Beamdog updates EE, the NWNX plugins have to be tweaked to match. It was nice and stable for the years when 1.69 was definitive, but now that the game is in development again, NWNX will have to be actively developed alongside it. That takes more work than just making a plugin and being finished, so there will likely be fewer consistently available plugins until EE development settles down.

Can someone throw nwnx plugin source at me?

[Dunshine]

You can get it here and help out if you have the skillset: https://github.com/nwnxee/unified

[Void]

You can get it here and help out if you have the skillset: https://github.com/nwnxee/unified

Thanks for the link.

[Gable Morninglord]

Not having -disguise is a HUGE PITA.

I hope this gets resolved quick.

[Batrachophrenoboocosmomachia]

My heart goes out to the career disguise players.

[Sheds a single tear.]

It's my understanding (if I'm not mistaken) that NWNX_NAMES is more arduous to update than some of the others. I seriously can't wait for it but I haven't been holding my breath.

[Shadowy Reality]

My heart goes out to the career disguise players.

[Sheds a single tear.]

It's my understanding (if I'm not mistaken) that NWNX_NAMES is more arduous to update than some of the others. I seriously can't wait for it but I haven't been holding my breath.

If you have a peek at the Names plugin you'll see that there's some sort of really low-level things going on, it seems only slightly better than Assembly at some points, I do not envy whoever maintains and develops that, I do however respect it.

[ReverentBlade]

I'll be the contrarian and say that I've found the server more enjoyable without it. My character can pierce most disguises anyway so it's not like it severely -diminished- my enjoyment, but it did feel like it was limiting my interactions. I couldn't come up with a justifiable excuse to break character enough to interact with these disguised people. When you're running around obviously trying to obfuscate your identify, most normal people would assume they are criminals and avoid them.

Having previously been a "career evil" player on other servers, I can definitely see the use and appeal of a disguise system, but I feel like there's probably better ways to handle that RP.

[triaddraykin]

I've chatted briefly with the NWNX team on their discord server, and to their knowledge, no one is working on it.

[Gods_Kill_People]

Honestly...I just got to the point of putting an OOC notice in my Bio

(( This character is often disguised as X, please check the text box to ensure you have broken my disguise, thank you ))

[Void]

Honestly...I just got to the point of putting an OOC notice in my Bio

(( This character is often disguised as X, please check the text box to ensure you have broken my disguise, thank you ))

Speaking of which, it would be great if disguise info appeared on top of the bio and not at the bottom, where a lot of people can miss it.

[Seven Sons of Sin]

I'll be the contrarian and say that I've found the server more enjoyable without it. My character can pierce most disguises anyway so it's not like it severely -diminished- my enjoyment, but it did feel like it was limiting my interactions. I couldn't come up with a justifiable excuse to break character enough to interact with these disguised people. When you're running around obviously trying to obfuscate your identify, most normal people would assume they are criminals and avoid them.

Having previously been a "career evil" player on other servers, I can definitely see the use and appeal of a disguise system, but I feel like there's probably better ways to handle that RP.

I've wanted to return to Arelith, but unfortunately my character in question hinged on the entire idea of anonymity. It's been difficult to rethink how I can get around it while maintaining the same level of fun and interactivity.

[BegoneThoth]

I've chatted briefly with the NWNX team on their discord server, and to their knowledge, no one is working on it.

RIP Bluff

[Void]

Speaking of which, can someone tell me which plugin was responsible for renaming characters in general?

[TimeAdept]

NWNX_NAMES from what I gather in the topic

[Phoxly]

*uses disguise anyway knowing people will metagame without realizing it*



Thanks Bhaal. :'(

[Nitro]

[Laughs in Cyric]

[Durvayas]

I'll be the contrarian and say that I've found the server more enjoyable without it. My character can pierce most disguises anyway so it's not like it severely -diminished- my enjoyment, but it did feel like it was limiting my interactions. I couldn't come up with a justifiable excuse to break character enough to interact with these disguised people. When you're running around obviously trying to obfuscate your identify, most normal people would assume they are criminals and avoid them.

Having previously been a "career evil" player on other servers, I can definitely see the use and appeal of a disguise system, but I feel like there's probably better ways to handle that RP.

I've wanted to return to Arelith, but unfortunately my character in question hinged on the entire idea of anonymity. It's been difficult to rethink how I can get around it while maintaining the same level of fun and interactivity.

Quite simply, you can't. I know of a person who tried, whose entire line of RP was compromised, and myself and another player entirely gave up trying our own crime syndicate RP because its simply nonviable without being metagamed, and once that cat is out of the bag, there's no going back.

Play another character; until disguise is fixed, there is literally no point playing any kind of concept that relies even a little bit on being unrecognizable.