Dwarven Rune Wall any good?

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Moominpappa
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Dwarven Rune Wall any good?

Post by Moominpappa » Tue May 22, 2018 5:18 pm

I am playing a dwarf at the moment and I don't get why the Dwarven Rune wall is any good. Apart from the runic part, it seems to be worse than a mithral shield but with a higher dc. Is there any point in getting this if you don't have a particularly good enchanter on hand? Or is it just because the ingredients are a bit easier to get?

Dwarven Rune Wall:
Armor Bonus: +2
Damage Immunity: 5% Slashing
Damage Immunity: 5% Piercing
Damage Immunity: 5% Bludgeoning
Runic
Only Usable By: Dwarf

Mithral:
Damage 10% Immunity
AC Bonus +2
Weight Reduction: 80%
Universal Saves +1

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Re: Dwarven Rune Wall any good?

Post by PinataPlethora » Tue May 22, 2018 5:32 pm

You can easily put a Universal Save +1 on it to match most of Mithril's properties, and it gives you 15% distributed damage immunity instead of 10%. You also have the option to easily put on STR/CON/whatever if that suits you better. Stacked with armor and a helm, you're taking a 5% reduction to piercing DI in order to get 5% more slashing/bludgeoning DI.

It's a tradeoff which can be beneficial if you adjust your other gear and your playstyle to match.

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Re: Dwarven Rune Wall any good?

Post by Nitro » Tue May 22, 2018 6:30 pm

It's not great, especially with it being a large shield instead of a tower shield.

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Re: Dwarven Rune Wall any good?

Post by Iceborn » Tue May 22, 2018 11:37 pm

Ironically, this shield is far better suited for small races than the dwarves that it was intended for.
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Re: Dwarven Rune Wall any good?

Post by liver and bones » Tue May 22, 2018 11:52 pm

Nitro wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 6:30 pm
It's not great, especially with it being a large shield instead of a tower shield.
Biggest reason why it sucks. 5% extra chance to be hit.

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Re: Dwarven Rune Wall any good?

Post by Iceborn » Wed May 23, 2018 12:08 am

10% actually.
An addy tower shield gets you +6 AC.
The Rune Wall gets you +4 AC.
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Re: Dwarven Rune Wall any good?

Post by liver and bones » Wed May 23, 2018 2:09 am

Iceborn wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 12:08 am
10% actually.
An addy tower shield gets you +6 AC.
The Rune Wall gets you +4 AC.
You're right! Even worse!

Frankly, if it didn't incur spell failure then it could be a viable shield. A decent shield for cleric casters or spellswords.

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Re: Dwarven Rune Wall any good?

Post by Moominpappa » Wed May 23, 2018 3:34 am

Chees all! Will give it a think over (I like large shields for the aesthetics compared to tower shield. Sorry build optimisers!).

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Re: Dwarven Rune Wall any good?

Post by Lafcadio » Wed May 23, 2018 8:11 am

Most of the Dwarven gear does seem worse (or more niche) than the Orog gear for example but the materials are fairly easy to get.

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