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Wiki: Wrong and Missing

Post by triaddraykin » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:23 am

The purpose of this thread is simple: To let myself and other common wiki contributors know what is missing or wrong on the Wiki.

And before you point it out, http://wiki.arelith.com/Special:SpecialPages is known about.

Much Love, no trolling please, and let the corrections/suggestions flow.

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Re: Wiki: Wrong and Missing

Post by DarkDreamer » Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:35 am

Masterly Damaskan Weapons can use an update. Pointed that out months ago.

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Re: Wiki: Wrong and Missing

Post by DishServedHot2 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:16 am

http://wiki.arelith.com/Skill_changes says that Persuade can be seen on inspection, I'm not currently seeing it on inspection and I was told that this was removed.

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Re: Wiki: Wrong and Missing

Post by BegoneThoth » Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:52 am

http://wiki.arelith.com/Spell_changes

and

http://wiki.arelith.com/Class_Spell_Changes

Don't always match, for example;
Greater Dispelling: Caps at level 20. Each Abjuration foci increases dispel's power by +2 over the cap.
Greater Dispelling: Caster Level bonus cap has been increased, allowing a bonus of 22 before applying bonuses from Abjuration Spell Foci.
Don't know which versions are right on most discrepancies so unfortunately I can't comb over it and correct em myself.
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Re: Wiki: Wrong and Missing

Post by Cataclysm of Iron » Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:18 am

Both of the spell change pages list Spike Growth as dealing d4/level when it actually deals d4/3 levels.
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Re: Wiki: Wrong and Missing

Post by DM Always This Late » Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:01 am

I'll see if I can work on fixing some of these. It can be a pain in the butt to get the boxes to work right.
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Re: Wiki: Wrong and Missing

Post by MissEvelyn » Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:53 pm

BegoneThoth wrote:http://wiki.arelith.com/Spell_changes

and

http://wiki.arelith.com/Class_Spell_Changes

Don't always match, for example;
Would like to add to this one. Both pages state the following:
Ball Lightning: Behaves exactly as Arelith's Firebrand.
But Firebrand's changes aren't listed on either page, so we don't really know how 'Arelith's Firebrand' works.


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Re: Wiki: Wrong and Missing

Post by BegoneThoth » Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:58 pm

Lorkas wrote:Orog heavy sword (greatsword):
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Orog bastard sword:
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Orog full plate armor:
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Re: Wiki: Wrong and Missing

Post by BegoneThoth » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:01 pm

http://wiki.arelith.com/Category:Race#Ogre

Likely should mention they have a race-specific gift.

http://wiki.arelith.com/Gifts
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Re: Wiki: Wrong and Missing

Post by Iceborn » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:05 pm

A few things here:

The whole of the Forging article needs an update. It's super clunky, but I can't come up with a format that I like in my mind.
Orog weapons and armor still missing. PENDING!
Deities update still missing. PENDING!
Druid free feat still missing. PENDING!

Usually Spell Changes is updated first, and Organized Spell Changes goes next.

Updated the skill page based on the last Examine change.

I don't remember how, if Firebrand was originally modified. I couldn't find anything in the forum, regarding it. For now I'll just remove "Arelith"'s and imply it works as vanilla Firebrand.
No, wait. I remember now - in vanilla, Firebrand hits one bolt per target, and if there are more, the excess bolts disappear - in NWN, you can throw all 15 bolts to a single target. I have no idea how these spells actually work in the game now.
And updating Spike Growth to actual working formula...

I would say the ogres don't need the mention of the race specific gift there, since it's in their own article, which is what people should check when they want to read more specific information regarding their race.
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Re: Wiki: Wrong and Missing

Post by BegoneThoth » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:28 pm

I really think, given how dramatic it changes the build, it should be listed as "may select the ogre magi gift" or something, like how some races have bloodlines in that box, i'd also do the same for drow, just so people know they exist at a glance (which is what I think those race-tables are for).

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Re: Wiki: Wrong and Missing

Post by Iceborn » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:30 pm

*Shrug*
You are right there.
Doesn't cost anything to add one line more if the tieflings already have it.
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Re: Wiki: Wrong and Missing

Post by BegoneThoth » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:34 pm

Thanks for helping out with this topic by the way Ice.

I'll scour the wiki later and post more needed changes/clarifications here.
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Re: Wiki: Wrong and Missing

Post by Xerah » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:51 pm

I don't think firebrand is any different than standard NWN (not that I've played NWN like that in ages).
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Re: Wiki: Wrong and Missing

Post by Seven Sons of Sin » Mon Mar 05, 2018 5:09 pm

I know that there's some confusion around the "Special Weapons" section. It's unclear if that stuff is for race-specific only, or will only other class-specific stuff. I.e. the ranger spear isn't there

I know this is a lot of work, and I'd help organize the material if I knew it all, but with the amount of class/race/alignment specific craftable items, I think it would be really great to have an additional page that includes them all. Rather than individually tracking through each Crafting discipline.

Especially since "Special Items" have legitimized certain builds and mechanics. They're almost essentially when brewing up characters now!
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Re: Wiki: Wrong and Missing

Post by Hammerwell » Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:14 pm

For the grammar experts / editors out there who might notice some problems, but don't know how to fix them on the wiki: I can do it for you.

Just PM me the page and the change you want to make.

I don't have the time to make huge changes, but I do know how to edit wiki information. So I can fix those misplaced commas, remove that unnecessary bold tag, add an Oxford comma, etc., but don't ask me to re-categorise entire groups of articles.

So while this thread is about major changes, I'm just pitching in to say I can probably do you a very small but important change quickly if you just PM me.

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Re: Wiki: Wrong and Missing

Post by Baron Saturday » Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:20 pm

If I'm not mistaken, Displacer Beast Cloak is a mundane item now - this seems to have been changed at some point, as I know it didn't used to be!
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Re: Wiki: Wrong and Missing

Post by Iceborn » Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:07 am

Slapped the orog armors in.
Druid free feats still pending.
Deities still pending.
I have to confirm the displacer beast cloak tomorrow.
And still thinking how to rewrite the forging article so it's easier to navigate. I'll get to it eventually.
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Re: Wiki: Wrong and Missing

Post by DarkDreamer » Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:00 am

Can we fix the look up reference for Forging to Blacksmithing....seriously...no one looks up Forging...

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Re: Wiki: Wrong and Missing

Post by Seekeepeek » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:48 am

DarkDreamer wrote:Can we fix the look up reference for Forging to Blacksmithing....seriously...no one looks up Forging...
*sniffs* i do...

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Re: Wiki: Wrong and Missing

Post by DarkDreamer » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:53 am

well your strange anyways *winks*

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Re: Wiki: Wrong and Missing

Post by If Valor Were Inches » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:59 am

I'd also probably look up forging over blacksmithing. Less letters.

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Re: Wiki: Wrong and Missing

Post by DarkDreamer » Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:01 pm

Considering its called Blacksmithing in Game...people are gonna look up Blacksmithing, not forging.

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Re: Wiki: Wrong and Missing

Post by Lorkas » Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:19 pm

I really actually thought it was called forging in game. We can easily make a redirect page so that both go to the same article though.

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Re: Wiki: Wrong and Missing

Post by DarkDreamer » Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:21 pm

please do..

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