Spellsword bonus AB?
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Spellsword bonus AB?
The table that shows how much bonus AB spellswords get and when is gone from the Wiki.
Can anyone hit me with the numbers?
Can anyone hit me with the numbers?
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Re: Spellsword bonus AB?
They function as 3/4ths ab class now instead of getting bonus AB. I think they get 1 bonus ab at 23 but I'm probably wrong
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Re: Spellsword bonus AB?
The bonus points at epic levels is what I'm interested to know about. Scaling past level 20. We'll wait until someone who knows comes around. :]
Re: Spellsword bonus AB?
You get bonus ab at lvls 23 and 27. This is a soft bonus.
EDIT: Worth clarifying that if 'artificial' bab lvls (15, 19, for example) are taken in epic lvls, they dont give this soft bonus.
EDIT: Worth clarifying that if 'artificial' bab lvls (15, 19, for example) are taken in epic lvls, they dont give this soft bonus.
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Re: Spellsword bonus AB?
You get soft bonus at 23 and 27, you do not get any bonus if pre epic levels (15, 19 etc) are taken in epics
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Re: Spellsword bonus AB?
But why, tho'?
Spellswords are a proper 3/4 class now, except for a few weird loose mechanics. Why do they need the extra AB mechanic in epics?
Spellswords are a proper 3/4 class now, except for a few weird loose mechanics. Why do they need the extra AB mechanic in epics?
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Re: Spellsword bonus AB?
I think the script has always been 1 AB every 4 levels or so. Just the bonus APR at 22 was shot down. The rest wasn't changed.
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Re: Spellsword bonus AB?
Spellswords had the oddity of getting the 3/4 AB mimicry in epics, which... should not be the case. At least not anymore that they are intended and supposed to work as a normal 3/4 class.
As you surely know, all characters get 1/2 AB progression in epics regardless the class.
As you surely know, all characters get 1/2 AB progression in epics regardless the class.
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Re: Spellsword bonus AB?
tl;dr, we didn't want to take the 27/3 spellswords and put them in the "less AB than a pre-epic fighter dip spellsword" box.
They're already giving up EWS and the ease of leveling that comes with quick access to armor, in the case of str-based spellswords.
Running the math out, most spellsword build choices will get you between 43 and 45 AB, which is about where we want them, and nobody handling the design wanted to drop vintage spellswords to 41-43.
Spellsword has a lot about it that's busted, but nerfing the AB down from where it currently rests would probably amount to a warlock-style dumpstering of the class. What needs fixing is basically everything else, and cluttering up the proposed fix list by dropping some build setups a couple points of AB makes fixing everything else a lot more difficult.
They're already giving up EWS and the ease of leveling that comes with quick access to armor, in the case of str-based spellswords.
Running the math out, most spellsword build choices will get you between 43 and 45 AB, which is about where we want them, and nobody handling the design wanted to drop vintage spellswords to 41-43.
Spellsword has a lot about it that's busted, but nerfing the AB down from where it currently rests would probably amount to a warlock-style dumpstering of the class. What needs fixing is basically everything else, and cluttering up the proposed fix list by dropping some build setups a couple points of AB makes fixing everything else a lot more difficult.
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Re: Spellsword bonus AB?
Okay, that parses. So about that warlock dumpster, any fire extinguishers pointed that way?
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Re: Spellsword bonus AB?
Dope, thanks!
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Alrighty. Does anyone know how spellsword interacts with +caster level? Such as from Pale Master?
Does that +caster level affect the imbue DCs? the amount of XD4 damage on the imbues? The cap for int damage and ac?
Does that +caster level affect the imbue DCs? the amount of XD4 damage on the imbues? The cap for int damage and ac?
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Re: Spellsword bonus AB?
I remember hearing that only wizard levels effect your imbues and mage armor and other spellsword things. Probably for the best, considering.
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There is no interactionDirtyDeity wrote:Alrighty. Does anyone know how spellsword interacts with +caster level? Such as from Pale Master?
Does that +caster level affect the imbue DCs? the amount of XD4 damage on the imbues? The cap for int damage and ac?