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UMD gear and high UMD checks

Post by BegoneThoth » Fri Nov 24, 2017 4:17 am

Question I had, do we allow one to pump their UMD in order to equip gear that has a high UMD check?

For example, if I eagles splendor, and then bard song, I can inflate my UMD quite a bit, if it puts it over 60, and I put a UMD60 item on, and bardsong falls off, am I required to manually de-equip the item? Or am I ok?

Likewise, can I Diablo 2 style run a set of UMD gear to get my UMD up, equip a high UMD required item, then swap out the gear?
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Re: UMD gear and high UMD checks

Post by One Two Three Five » Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:09 am

Sounds real sketchy.
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Re: UMD gear and high UMD checks

Post by Lorkas » Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:37 am

It's something I know some people have done, but as Fourless said, it's sketchy.

Also, it will do a UMD check and force-unequip items sometimes, like any time you log on or change servers. A crash with a full inventory can mean saying goodbye to any items you equip in this way, even if the DMs say it's not a rulebreak.

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Re: UMD gear and high UMD checks

Post by flower » Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:21 am

It is an annoying chore but if they are willing to fiddle with it every time then let them?

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Re: UMD gear and high UMD checks

Post by One Two Three Five » Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:28 am

"Let me switch into my sword-holding clothes, then back into my fighting clothes real fast-"
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Re: UMD gear and high UMD checks

Post by flower » Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:42 am

Well you know, it is quite restricting to carry 5- 8 pieces of gear to cover the UMD-

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Re: UMD gear and high UMD checks

Post by Teshil » Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:09 am

You should also note that if you crash or log out while wearing an item you need higher UMD to wear, it will automatically unequip it to your first inventory page when you log back in, moving everything around and screwing up quickslots. If you do this, I recommend that you try to keep the first inventory page empty.

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Re: UMD gear and high UMD checks

Post by BegoneThoth » Fri Nov 24, 2017 4:10 pm

One Two Three Five wrote:"Let me switch into my sword-holding clothes, then back into my fighting clothes real fast-"
"Let me sing"

*throws on helmet*

"Ok I'm good until I have to rest again."

If someone wants to deal with it, are they allowed? It seems fine to me.
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Re: UMD gear and high UMD checks

Post by Sab1 » Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:49 pm

I always thought if your UMD for whatever reason fell below a required number, it auto took your gear off. I know I got hit with a debuff once that caused my UMD to lower and the item was no longer equipped.

This sounds very sketchy "Likewise, can I Diablo 2 style run a set of UMD gear to get my UMD up, equip a high UMD required item, then swap out the gear?"

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Re: UMD gear and high UMD checks

Post by flower » Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:07 pm

But yiou must fill bag with items. And bother with it each time you re log, crash or reset.

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Re: UMD gear and high UMD checks

Post by Astral » Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:34 pm

The fact the devs added UMD checks like 60 to some things sort of confirm that this is not sketchy to put UMD on your gear and include that in your RP. You cannot get 60 without gear or other soft means.
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Re: UMD gear and high UMD checks

Post by BegoneThoth » Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:23 pm

Astral wrote:The fact the devs added UMD checks like 60 to some things sort of confirm that this is not sketchy to put UMD on your gear and include that in your RP. You cannot get 60 without gear or other soft means.
This is what I assumed. It was permitted. I know people do it, because you can't realistically get to 60 w/o gear and spells.

Spyre (and a few other people who had conflicting answers) told me to just ask to get an official reply.
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Re: UMD gear and high UMD checks

Post by Dreams » Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:01 pm

There's nothing wrong with this.

IC you absolutely can think 'I need to use these gloves to help me access the magic of that item that is beyond me, because that's what these magic gloves do.'

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Re: UMD gear and high UMD checks

Post by Sab1 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:06 am

No one saying putting UMD on gear is bad, but putting it om your gear so you can wear something, put the item on and then change out of your UMD gear seems like gaming the system to me. Because now your UMD isn't 60 yet you still have the item on.

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Re: UMD gear and high UMD checks

Post by BegoneThoth » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:10 am

That's why I mentioned bardsong and cha buffs.

If I can't gear to 60 can I bardsong to 60?
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Re: UMD gear and high UMD checks

Post by Tryn Dralar » Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:20 am

Astral wrote:The fact the devs added UMD checks like 60 to some things sort of confirm that this is not sketchy to put UMD on your gear and include that in your RP. You cannot get 60 without gear or other soft means.
sure you can, just take 33 in UMD, plus the skill feat for UMD which adds 3 and then epic skill feat for 20 more. That's 56. Have 18 in CHA which gives you your +4 bonus and voala...60 UMD! :)

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Re: UMD gear and high UMD checks

Post by BegoneThoth » Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:38 am

Tryn Dralar wrote:
Astral wrote:The fact the devs added UMD checks like 60 to some things sort of confirm that this is not sketchy to put UMD on your gear and include that in your RP. You cannot get 60 without gear or other soft means.
sure you can, just take 33 in UMD, plus the skill feat for UMD which adds 3 and then epic skill feat for 20 more. That's 56. Have 18 in CHA which gives you your +4 bonus and voala...60 UMD! :)
http://nwn.wikia.com/wiki/Epic_skill_focus

Specifics: The character gains a +10 bonus on all skill checks
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Re: UMD gear and high UMD checks

Post by Tryn Dralar » Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:41 am

lol, I knew I was gonna get that wrong....ok so just a 38 CHA *Shifty eyes*

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