Elder Dream Spear + permanent Essence

[caldura firebourne]

is a permanent essence applied to this weapon supposed to overwrite the 2d6 divine damage? or bug?

[cptcuddlepants]

If it was a permanent divine essence, then they won't work together.

[Seekeepeek]

damage vs racial group/alignment don't get overwritten, everything else does by a permanent essence.
damage vs racial group/alignment don't stack with a normal essence. so 1d6 divine + 2d6 divine vs undead =2d6 divine vs undead
since the spear is runic (i think) you can enchant it with 1d4 in the basin without losing the 2d6 divine.

[Lorkas]

If you want to basin on extra damage, make sure you put your permanent essence on before enchanting. Essences remove previous elemental damages, but enchantments do not.

[caldura firebourne]

A little more specifically, is the hardest weapon in the game to get supposed to be so easily overwritten with an inferior essence?

[Terenfel]

Yes. Dont ever place a permanent Essence on a Elder Dream spear. there is no essence that is better then the +2d6 divine that is allready on the weapon.

[Seekeepeek]

what's the UMD requirement for the elder dream anyway?

[caldura firebourne]

what's the UMD requirement for the elder dream anyway?

55

[Sab1]

So if something has 2d6 divine on it you still couldn't put say a 1d6 or +4 fire on it without overwriting the 2d6 divine?

[Dredi]

Permanent Essences overwrite ANY OTHER ELEMENTAL ENCHANTMENT unless it is Vs race, vs alignment or any other vs condition. If its just flat elemental damage (which to be clear is all non physical damage) then it gets overritten

If you enchanted an item at a basin and put +1 damage on, it would overrite this just the same as a special item with 2d6 Divine damage.

[Dreams]

Just to be clear:
Putting any permanent damage essence on The Elder Dream will replace the divine damage.

[Sab1]

Just curious as I have seen gloves with 1d4 fire, cold, and positive energy on them. If I am understanding this correctly, shouldn't that be impossible?

[Ork]

That's done through the enchantment basin, not with essences.

[Iceborn]

As it was written... somewhere in the wiki:

Essences replace all elemental damage (except elemental vs alignment/race).
Basins only replace the damage if it's the same damage (1d4 divine would replace 2d6 divine), though in most cases it's a matter of a 5%, unless it's a runic item or a completely plain item.

[Sab1]

Could you put a defensive essence on the spear and have it not wipe out the 2d6 damage?

[TimeAdept]

You can, yes.