Do NPCs use whirlwind?

Post by **Nour** » Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:12 am

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Post by **Iceborn** » Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:21 am

Some of them.
Rarely.

Post by **Nour** » Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:24 am

Iceborn wrote:Some of them.
Rarely.

which ones? i've never ever seen it

i've also been told that they couldn't before, was this changed?

Post by **Iceborn** » Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:42 am

I can't recall off the top of my head, but I saw it just a few days ago.
Maybe the grimlocks in UD?

Post by **Nour** » Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:56 am

Iceborn wrote:I can't recall off the top of my head, but I saw it just a few days ago.
Maybe the grimlocks in UD?

im pretty sure whirlwind can't be performed by NPCs.

ive asked everyone i've ever played with now, nobody has ever seen it before

thats a lot of people.

not even on grimlocks, so idk man

FoxyPigeon · Post by **FoxyPigeon** » Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:51 am

Never saw it prior to the AI change, but afterwards, I've seen the Warship crew use it, and oddly enough "heard it" while fighting some of the Minmir giants/ettins.

bwpsycho · Post by **bwpsycho** » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:36 pm

Swamp hag uses it

Hunter548 · Post by **Hunter548** » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:27 pm

bwpsycho wrote:Swamp hag uses it

Dr_Hazard89 · Post by **Dr_Hazard89** » Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:41 pm

Umberhulk boss in the Stinger Caverns whirlwinded at me.

JediMindTrix · Post by **JediMindTrix** » Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:03 pm

One of the soldier's on the Dreadnaught does the anim every x amount of minutes

Dorkas · Post by **Dorkas** » Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:46 pm

The ai is adapting too much, they know WM is the best class.

Post by **Nour** » Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:51 pm

so no DM can tell me for sure whether or not this is the case

Nemain · Post by **Nemain** » Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:13 pm

I'm pretty sure I heard one of the minmir giants use the whirlwind (they lacked the animation). A great way to mechanically simulate a huge oaf swinging around a club-shaped tree trunk, really.

Post by **Nour** » Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:46 pm

I JUST WANT A DM TO TELL ME IF NPCS EVER USE WHIRLWIND

PLEASE BOSS

BrilliantInsanity · Post by **BrilliantInsanity** » Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:06 am

If you only want DM input why bother making a post on the forums, since you're clearly ignoring all the other people in the thread that said they have witnessed this behavior in action?

If you're only interested in DM input might I direct you to the forum PM option to contact only DM's and not waste an entire thread ignoring people telling you they have seen the behavior you claimed no one has seen.

Dreams · Post by **Dreams** » Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:11 am

You don't need a DM to tell you the most simple answer to this:
NPCs didn't use Whirlwind in the past, now they do. Ta da!

Post by **Iceborn** » Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:25 am

Out of curiosity, why does this matter?

High Primate · Post by **High Primate** » Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:58 am

I know it's possible to script NPCs to use it. Valen Shadowbreath in HoTU does so.

Stath · Post by **Stath** » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:23 am

Dreams wrote: NPCs didn't use Whirlwind in the past, now they do. Ta da!

I too can make ambiguous claims with absolutely no supporting evidence whatsoever and present it as fact.

Hexgoblin · Post by **Hexgoblin** » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:38 am

Yes. Since the AI change, I've had the Swamp Witch whirlwind attack against me multiple times, as awkward as that is when thinking into it.

Normally, they do not. It's recent. Again, I'm really curious as to why this is a topic of distress, though. If anything, the permanently lasting traps that layer every dungeon, set by various spawns since the AI change stand out a whole lot more.

Furthermore, I doubt that a DM will be able to give you a clearer answer, as they weren't the ones coding the new NPC behavior.

Seven Sons of Sin · Post by **Seven Sons of Sin** » Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:37 pm

This should go in Q&A.

Twily · Post by **Twily** » Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:36 pm

Yes: Some NPCs use whirlwind.

I am 100% sure of this, as I saw the Underdark egg spider boss use it just today.

It actually made the fight easier, as it was poorly timed on the spider's part and resulted in it standing around doing nothing for a few seconds.

This is a recent change, as I've never seen NPCs use it in my five years on the server, until the last month or two.

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