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Saves on new char

Post by snobby-princess » Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:43 am

I just made a character with the following stats:

STR 9
Dex 10
Con 10
Int: 14
Wis: 10
Cha: 21

I took gift of Cha, Gift of +2 Saves. Chose background Natural Leader, and took feat 'Luck of Heroes'.

At level 3 my saves are:

Fort: 3
Reflex: 3
Will: 6

Is that right?

Thanks.
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Re: Saves on new char

Post by Hunter548 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:47 am

What class?
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Re: Saves on new char

Post by snobby-princess » Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:52 am

Sorcerer
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Re: Saves on new char

Post by Lorkas » Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:00 am

Yep, looks right.

Remember that natural leader gives -1 fort and -1 reflex

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Re: Saves on new char

Post by snobby-princess » Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:35 am

Ok. Just thought +2 (gift of saves) + 1 (Luck of Heroes) - 1 (natural Leader) would still balance out to at least a +2. That means my Fort and Reflex saves are each a 1 at level 3 with neither having a negative stat?
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Re: Saves on new char

Post by Lorkas » Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:48 am

Yea, your base save in both of them is 1 at this point since they're both low saves for a sorcerer. A low save goes up by 1 for each three levels you take in the class, so at level 20 your base fort and reflex save will be 6 if you're still a pure sorcerer (8 total, plus your spellcraft bonus against spells for something like an extra +6 or +7 vs spells).

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Re: Saves on new char

Post by snobby-princess » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:26 am

Guess maybe its not worth taking 1 extra point of CHA for the save penalties and -1 Con (Natural Leader)?
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Re: Saves on new char

Post by Lorkas » Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:42 am

Not unless you have a specific reason for needing every single point of CHA you can get at any cost.

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