Shadowdancer questions

You have questions? We may have answers.

Moderators: Active DMs, Forum Moderators

Post Reply
Azaria
Posts: 111
Joined: Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:25 am

Shadowdancer questions

Post by Azaria » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:08 am

Does the shadowdancer summon have a fixed 1d6 sneak or does it grow/benefit from its own aura?

how long does it last?

if i were to go kensai sd.. would the summon copy teh haste?

User avatar
Iceborn
Contributor
Contributor
Posts: 2930
Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:31 am
Location: Dancing on the line between sarcasm and irony

Re: Shadowdancer questions

Post by Iceborn » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:17 am

"The Shadowdancer gains a d6 sneak attack per three levels of the Shadow when standing near it."

I assume the duration remains as vanilla, 1 hour/SD level.

And, no. I don't think it copies your buffs - only your appearance, but I'd be intrigued to hear otherwise.

Finally I can start whiping wiki links about again!
http://wiki.arelith.com/Shadowdancer
Misc Changes, with the Feats and Skills sublinks.
Available races
Spell Changes
Class Mechanics
Command Guide

Take a look before asking your questions!

Azaria
Posts: 111
Joined: Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:25 am

Re: Shadowdancer questions

Post by Azaria » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:27 am

"The Shadowdancer gains a d6 sneak attack per three levels of the Shadow when standing near it."

thats gives the caster sneaks but what about the summon itself tho.. doesnt say it gets that aura effect aswell

User avatar
caldura firebourne
Posts: 753
Joined: Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:05 pm

Re: Shadowdancer questions

Post by caldura firebourne » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:30 am

it does copy your buffs as well, or at least it did last week, meaning you can cast grace or whatever on yourself, summon the shadow, then cast grace on it for a double buff, might need fixing
Plays as the monster in your closet

User avatar
Iceborn
Contributor
Contributor
Posts: 2930
Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:31 am
Location: Dancing on the line between sarcasm and irony

Re: Shadowdancer questions

Post by Iceborn » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:53 am

Interesting.

Do they copy the equipment buffs as well? If they don't, I'd argue that they are fine with the "double buff".
Misc Changes, with the Feats and Skills sublinks.
Available races
Spell Changes
Class Mechanics
Command Guide

Take a look before asking your questions!

User avatar
caldura firebourne
Posts: 753
Joined: Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:05 pm

Re: Shadowdancer questions

Post by caldura firebourne » Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:25 pm

not sure about skill buffs or AC, but stat buffs yeah
Plays as the monster in your closet

Astral
Posts: 1229
Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:18 pm

Re: Shadowdancer questions

Post by Astral » Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:48 pm

From my understanding of the update the shadow itself has static 1d6 sneak attack that doesn't change (probably needed for it to have Crippling Strike, is my guess).
Currently playing: Seth Xylo

User avatar
Dalenger
Posts: 1184
Joined: Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:56 pm
Location: 422nd layer of the abyss, sacraficing some poor sap to Yeenoghu

Re: Shadowdancer questions

Post by Dalenger » Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:21 pm

I'll piggyback on this thread. Would a summon be able to use double sided/duel weapons without major debuffs?

I think it would make sense for the summon to gain the users speed buffs, like from Kensai and monk speed, but can't confirm nor deny it.
DM Void wrote: Don't be a salty idiot and everything will be fine.

Azaria
Posts: 111
Joined: Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:25 am

Re: Shadowdancer questions

Post by Azaria » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:52 pm

i would love to know about dual wield too

User avatar
Baron Saturday
Posts: 2364
Joined: Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:34 am

Re: Shadowdancer questions

Post by Baron Saturday » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:09 pm

I've actually been rather curious as to why the shadow doesn't have weapon finesse, what with most shadowdancers being dex-based.
Rolled: Helene d'Arque, Sara Lyonall
Shelved: Kels Vetian, Cin ys'Andalis, Saul Haidt
Playing: Oshe Jordain

Shadofury
Posts: 217
Joined: Mon May 09, 2016 6:32 pm

Re: Shadowdancer questions

Post by Shadofury » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:39 pm

I wonder if Shadowdancers would get like a free portal or way to access the shadowplane

User avatar
Iceborn
Contributor
Contributor
Posts: 2930
Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:31 am
Location: Dancing on the line between sarcasm and irony

Re: Shadowdancer questions

Post by Iceborn » Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:17 pm

The three last things I hope to see implemented.
If the Shawdowdancer has dual-weapon feats; so does the shadow.
If the Shadowdancer has weapon finesse; so does the shadow.
And while I don't think they had any ability to go directly to the plane of shadows, it'd be a nice if they had something special for it.
Misc Changes, with the Feats and Skills sublinks.
Available races
Spell Changes
Class Mechanics
Command Guide

Take a look before asking your questions!

Azaria
Posts: 111
Joined: Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:25 am

Re: Shadowdancer questions

Post by Azaria » Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:16 pm

^I agree to those!!!^ +1

Shadofury
Posts: 217
Joined: Mon May 09, 2016 6:32 pm

Re: Shadowdancer questions

Post by Shadofury » Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:53 pm

Iceborn wrote:The three last things I hope to see implemented.
If the Shawdowdancer has dual-weapon feats; so does the shadow.
If the Shadowdancer has weapon finesse; so does the shadow.
And while I don't think they had any ability to go directly to the plane of shadows, it'd be a nice if they had something special for it.

there was a place once when shadow walk for shadowdancers worked almost like a mini dimension door 30 feet in a given direction.

and druids could tree walk from anywhere to their chosen place of safety with a branch item ( single use per rest teleport item)from level 15 of druids in this case

so why couldnt shadowdancers at a certain level like hips get an item that lets them step into the shadowplane??

User avatar
Peppermint
Posts: 1860
Joined: Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:44 pm

Re: Shadowdancer questions

Post by Peppermint » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:17 pm

The duration is vanilla.

Stat bonuses are copied.

The shadows do not have dual-wield/weapon finesse feats by default, but will be granted them if their master has those feats.

User avatar
Iceborn
Contributor
Contributor
Posts: 2930
Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:31 am
Location: Dancing on the line between sarcasm and irony

Re: Shadowdancer questions

Post by Iceborn » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:51 pm

Woo, now I want a pink pony!
Misc Changes, with the Feats and Skills sublinks.
Available races
Spell Changes
Class Mechanics
Command Guide

Take a look before asking your questions!

User avatar
Mithreas
Emeritus Admin
Emeritus Admin
Posts: 2555
Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2014 3:09 am

Re: Shadowdancer questions

Post by Mithreas » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:21 pm

Sorry, you'll need haks for that. There's no way to pink-skin a pony without them...

You could use a red-ish aura, if that helps? :P
xkcd.com is best viewed with Netscape Navigator 4.0 or below on a Pentium 3±1 emulated in Javascript on an Apple IIGS at a screen resolution of 1024x1.For security reasons, please leave caps lock on while browsing.

User avatar
Iceborn
Contributor
Contributor
Posts: 2930
Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:31 am
Location: Dancing on the line between sarcasm and irony

Re: Shadowdancer questions

Post by Iceborn » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:28 pm

What about a prismatic dragon named "Pink pony?" I bet nobody could tell the difference.
Misc Changes, with the Feats and Skills sublinks.
Available races
Spell Changes
Class Mechanics
Command Guide

Take a look before asking your questions!

Shadofury
Posts: 217
Joined: Mon May 09, 2016 6:32 pm

Re: Shadowdancer questions

Post by Shadofury » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:09 am

lets work on the shadowdancer plane walking item before we name dragons after their snackfood

User avatar
Dalenger
Posts: 1184
Joined: Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:56 pm
Location: 422nd layer of the abyss, sacraficing some poor sap to Yeenoghu

Re: Shadowdancer questions

Post by Dalenger » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:13 am

What about speed buffs from haste/monk speed?
DM Void wrote: Don't be a salty idiot and everything will be fine.

User avatar
Iceborn
Contributor
Contributor
Posts: 2930
Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:31 am
Location: Dancing on the line between sarcasm and irony

Re: Shadowdancer questions

Post by Iceborn » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:43 am

Hey, I can actually confirm that one!

They don't seem to get any class buff at all. At least my shadow isn't getting any of the kensai or monk ability. Not Haste, not Freedom of Movement, not the UBAB.
Misc Changes, with the Feats and Skills sublinks.
Available races
Spell Changes
Class Mechanics
Command Guide

Take a look before asking your questions!

User avatar
Peppermint
Posts: 1860
Joined: Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:44 pm

Re: Shadowdancer questions

Post by Peppermint » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:45 am

They only copy physical stats. That's all.

Post Reply