Should rats be vermin?

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Grench02
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Should rats be vermin?

Post by Grench02 » Wed Nov 06, 2019 4:41 pm

As far as I can tell, rats are currently not counted as vermin with respect to Cleric - Plant - Vermin - Turn Undead.

Should rats be included in vermin or is the current classification intentional?

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Re: Should rats be vermin?

Post by Ork » Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:28 pm

Vermin is a subrace category that includes spiders, crabs, worms, snakes, etc.

This is a base game categorization and not an Arelith specific one.

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Re: Should rats be vermin?

Post by The Kriv » Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:37 am

IIRC vermin (spiders/snakes) are not Animal-Empathy'able.... meanwhile.. you 'can' use empathy on Rats.

Making them 'vermin' would also drop them from Animal Empathy list

(not that this is a reason for not moving them, but simply an observation)
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Re: Should rats be vermin?

Post by MissEvelyn » Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:28 pm

Since we have haks, why not make them be both?

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Re: Should rats be vermin?

Post by xanrael » Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:59 am

Snakes are Animals in base NWN (and on here) but are Mind Immune which is why Animal Empathy fails. Some spiders are Vermin, others are Magical Beasts and thus Animal Empathy will work on them.

You can technically split them even without haks, as I know some drakes have both Dragon and Animal levels in the module and thus can be affected by Animal Empathy.

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