Sibayad (Desert Area) and UD Races

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Sibayad (Desert Area) and UD Races

Post by Spaniardl » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:56 pm

Hi, I found the desert area from the boat in crows nest. I was wondering if it is the same as all other surface areas and UD races are still not technically permitted unless disguised and seen as monsters and such. Or if the NPC allow anyone there? Thanks

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Re: Sibayad (Desert Area) and UD Races

Post by Sab1 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:19 pm

Sibayd has always been a they are free to visit but like any other surface settlement they weren't really welcomed to ling for long periods of time. I know a DM once said Sibayd wasn't meant to be a UD surface hang out place. More of a trade post type place.

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Re: Sibayad (Desert Area) and UD Races

Post by Hunter548 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:48 pm

Keep in mind that there is an NPC who is auto-hostile to underdark races in Sibayad and will try to murder you, plus there's a kobold on the other side of the island who mentions the Sibayadi ran him off. Presumably that means they're not entirely okay with underdarkers.
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Re: Sibayad (Desert Area) and UD Races

Post by Durvayas » Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:41 am

Its long been established that sibiyad is neutral towards UD races, so long as you don't disrupt business. UD races aren't allowed to own property in sibiyad, but they are allowed to visit.

You don't need to be disguised, but don't expect to rest in town. If you are going to base in the area, you need to at minimum do so in the outskirts or farther.

I had a drow living in the ruins outside of town by the portal and never had any trouble. Plenty of PvP with errant surface PCs, but none with the DMs or NPCs. Ranulf is an outlier within sibiyad itself, and is not to be used reasonably as a barometer for the town. The entire settlement screams NE, with the slave trade, mercenary guards, and implication of drugs and prostitution. The paladin himself is out of place.

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Re: Sibayad (Desert Area) and UD Races

Post by Dreams » Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:53 am

I think there's one that owns property there right now. Is this an actual policy?

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Re: Sibayad (Desert Area) and UD Races

Post by Baron Saturday » Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:57 am

That would be a question to bring up with the DM team. The best that other players can provide is anecdotes and hearsay.
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Re: Sibayad (Desert Area) and UD Races

Post by Ramza » Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:07 pm

Its quite alright for UDers to be there, and actually encouraged to come and trade. But its not recommend they live in the bazaar itself in any big numbers.

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Re: Sibayad (Desert Area) and UD Races

Post by susitsu » Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:53 pm

It most certainly is not encouraged.

In my experience, while the DMs do allow factions to claim psuedo-rulership over Sibayad, I'm not sure if that comes with any mechanical powers whatsoever. It's more like an OOC courtesy of the DMs to have the NPCs interact with and recognize a "ruling" faction.

This is generally just handled in the form of events and NPC interactions (again, in my experience,) and it is really more based on the whims of that faction how the general environment of Sibayad is handled when regarding UD races.

Whether they are invited to trade or pass through very quickly.

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Re: Sibayad (Desert Area) and UD Races

Post by Cortex » Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:56 pm

I recall a DM/admin ruling about monsters and outcasts not being allowed any quarter within populated places.
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Re: Sibayad (Desert Area) and UD Races

Post by susitsu » Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:06 pm

That is correct. But the two guildhouses outside of Sibayad are free game, or so Noxt told me. Meaning if a monster PC is actually in Sibayad, it's either by special exception, or they're losing that quarter.

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