Wrathful Castigation Ignores Death Immunity

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Wrathful Castigation Ignores Death Immunity

Post by Aniel » Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:03 pm

As a spell that has you rolling vs. death and has the death descriptor you'd expect death ward to block it. It does not. Failing the fortitude save with death ward active is very much lethal. Looks unintentional.

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Re: Wrathful Castigation Ignores Death Immunity

Post by Apokriphos » Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:58 pm

The 9th level Illusion spell Wierd ignores death immunity but not mind immunity.

Perhaps this spells is designed to do the same. Enchantment is a spell school in need of more perks/reasons for players to take it, especially as its epic bonus is currently non functional.

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Re: Wrathful Castigation Ignores Death Immunity

Post by Aniel » Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:11 am

Apokriphos wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:58 pm
The 9th level Illusion spell Wierd ignores death immunity but not mind immunity.
Weird isn't a death spell. Wrathful Castigation is.

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Re: Wrathful Castigation Ignores Death Immunity

Post by Aren » Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:55 am

Wrathful Castigation
(Spell Compendium, p. 243)

Enchantment (Compulsion) ->[Mind-Affecting]<-
Level: Sorcerer 8, Wizard 8,
Components: V, S, AF,
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: Close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)
Target: One living creature
Duration: 1 round/level (D)
Saving Throw: See text
Spell Resistance: Yes

It's basically a level 8 single target wierd.

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Re: Wrathful Castigation Ignores Death Immunity

Post by monkeywithstick » Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:05 am

Wrathful Castigation

Caster Level(s): Cleric 8, Wizard / Sorcerer 8
Innate Level: 8
School: Enchantment
Descriptor(s): Death, Mind-Affecting
Component(s): Verbal, Somatic
Range: Short
Area of Effect / Target: Single
Duration: 1 Round / 2 Levels
Additional Counter Spells:
Save: Fortitude Partial, Will Partial
Spell Resistance: Yes

The spell causes wracking pain and violent convulsions to the target creature and they must make a Fortitude save or die instantly.
A surviving target receives a Will save to avoid further effects.
Subjects failing the Will save are dazed for the duration of the spell and suffer 1d4 per caster level (Max 20d4) as damage.
Probably better to reference the spell description as used by the Dev in question. Many of the new spells differ a little from the PnP base.

Could certainly make an argument for it being mind affecting and not death. But that's for feedback rather than a bug report I imagine. I've already asked for some clarity on how the immunities are supposed to work in the Q&A Thread.
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Re: Wrathful Castigation Ignores Death Immunity

Post by Party in the forest at midnight » Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:46 pm

monkeywithstick wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:05 am
Wrathful Castigation

Caster Level(s): Cleric 8, Wizard / Sorcerer 8
Innate Level: 8
School: Enchantment
Descriptor(s): Death, Mind-Affecting
Component(s): Verbal, Somatic
Range: Short
Area of Effect / Target: Single
Duration: 1 Round / 2 Levels
Additional Counter Spells:
Save: Fortitude Partial, Will Partial
Spell Resistance: Yes

The spell causes wracking pain and violent convulsions to the target creature and they must make a Fortitude save or die instantly.
A surviving target receives a Will save to avoid further effects.
Subjects failing the Will save are dazed for the duration of the spell and suffer 1d4 per caster level (Max 20d4) as damage.
Probably better to reference the spell description as used by the Dev in question. Many of the new spells differ a little from the PnP base.

Could certainly make an argument for it being mind affecting and not death. But that's for feedback rather than a bug report I imagine. I've already asked for some clarity on how the immunities are supposed to work in the Q&A Thread.
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Re: Wrathful Castigation Ignores Death Immunity

Post by monkeywithstick » Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:00 pm

That was the text I quoted from Action Replay's thread, yeah...
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Re: Wrathful Castigation Ignores Death Immunity

Post by Party in the forest at midnight » Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:03 pm

Ah I misunderstood, I thought you wanted a picture of the in-game description.

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Re: Wrathful Castigation Ignores Death Immunity

Post by monkeywithstick » Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:25 pm

My bad: post was a bit unclear. Not like it hurt anyone anyway
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