Demon (Balor) from Wild Surge = Instant Death?

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Demon (Balor) from Wild Surge = Instant Death?

Post by RedGiant » Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:34 am

On the UD a warlock side project of mine (lvl 20) had the unfortunate luck to get a faerzress induced "GATE-RUN!!!" miscast. I started to do exactly that, but the Demon (Balor) happened to spawn in my path. As I was running we both hit each other on natural 20s...and immediately my warlock was sent to the fugue plane with no further feedback. This Warlock, unbuffed, has 266 hp. I was buffed.

Funny thing...there was no damage reporting...no save even for presumed Dev. Crit. strike? Only thing reported was Demon (Balor) killed x.

Do these things have Dev Crit...some awful unseen vorpal power...?

Is this more EE weirdness?

What gives?
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Re: Demon (Balor) from Wild Surge = Instant Death?

Post by susitsu » Sat Apr 21, 2018 1:23 am

In a recent death of mine, I was attacked by two sneaks, and neither of their flurries were reported.

Also, they do have dev crit.

edit: Vorpal weapon, as posted by RedGiant.
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Re: Demon (Balor) from Wild Surge = Instant Death?

Post by Xerah » Sat Apr 21, 2018 1:39 am

There should have been a reflex save for vorpal weapon. I think they have that anyway!
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Re: Demon (Balor) from Wild Surge = Instant Death?

Post by RedGiant » Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:53 am

Hrm...whatever it is immediately deadly and if it is improved crit, their crit range is enhanced. Recommend this creature be reworked entirely, especially if it uses illegal feats.
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Re: Demon (Balor) from Wild Surge = Instant Death?

Post by Dr. B » Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:26 am

If PCs can't have dev crit then neither should NPCs.

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Re: Demon (Balor) from Wild Surge = Instant Death?

Post by RedGiant » Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:38 am

Figured it out thanks to Xerah. The wild surge Balor indeed has a vorpal weapon. I missed the reflex save when I first looked at it, but thankfully took a screen shot.

Honestly, this is essentially almost as bad as dev crit, worse for some builds since the save is dex-based instead of fort-based. Continue to recommend a rework.
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Re: Demon (Balor) from Wild Surge = Instant Death?

Post by With The Sky Below My Feet » Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:57 pm

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